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primary interest is of the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey and the 

 Coast Guard and others down the line, as well as the Atomic Energj' 

 Commission. If the legislative committees have to bring in the person 

 assigned to this voluntary committee and hear from every one of 

 these people — and the natural feeling is that they must project their 

 point of view perhaps a little bit ahead of other agencies — that is 

 where we run into difficulty, Doctor. 



Dr. Carmichael. Sir, if I may take oif my hat as head of the 

 Smithsonian and put on my hat as a member of the National Academy 

 of Sciences, which is a civilian organization, on Constitution Avenue, 

 which has done a good deal of work in this field and has issued a 

 series of important reports, I cannot resist saying that I see very 

 clearly the point you have just made. 



The statement that I have presented to you is influenced, to a certain 

 degree, as most statements are that come to the Congress, by our 

 consultations with those who are concerned with the administration's 

 program. And so I feel that I must make the statement in the formal 

 sense in which I made it in my letter. 



Mr. Lennon, Even though this Interagency Committee was estab- 

 lished in January of last year and, according to their statement, they 

 have had frequent meetings and its status was affirmed in March of 

 this year, in view of that several persons this week have already asked 

 to be let in, so to speak? 



Mr. Carmichael. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon". You see the scope of this thing? 



Mr. Carmichael. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. Very few departments or agencies of the Federal 

 Government do not have some interest in this program. 



Dr. Carmichael. We are keenly interested in it. 



Mr. Lennon. We do not intend, by statute, to fix it so rigidly it 

 could not be broadened to let in other interested agencies where they 

 could demonstrate their right to come into this program. 



Thank you very much. 



Dr. Carmichael. Thank you very much indeed. 



Mr. DiNGELL. I would like to commend my distinguished friend for 

 his very useful questioning and exposition. 



Doctor, I am sure Mr. Bauer has some questions he would like to ask. 



The Chair will recognize Mr. Bauer at this time. 



Mr. Bauer. Doctor, I have a few questions. 



In the Smithsonian setup, is it not true you occupy a unique situa- 

 tion in the Government as a corporate entity ? In other words, your 

 Board of Trustees are composed of representatives of the executive 

 department, the judiciary, and the legislative, as well as the general 

 public ? 



Dr. Carmichael. Yes, sir, the Board of Regents is so composed. 



Mr. Bauer. I think that is a unique organization. 



Dr. Carmichael. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. Bearing that in mind, I think it is true that you are 

 the only Government agency which is not only a Government agency 

 but a private institution, so you really cover the entire spectrum of all 

 interests, do you not ? 



Dr. Carmichael. We are certainly represented on a broad front, 

 sir. 



