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field of marine science. If the Congress should adopt comprehensive legisla- 

 tion as envisioned in H.R. 4276, it w^ould be well to emphasize cooperative 

 endeavor among all concerned in this field of marine science. 



By provision of the act of March 3, 1S79, the Smithsonian Institution is desig- 

 nated as the oflicial depository for governmental collections of "rocks, minerals, 

 soils, fossils, and objects of natural history, archaeology and ethnology, when 

 no longer needed for investigations in progress." We believe that the depository 

 responsibility of the Institution is being discharged satisfactorily and that it 

 can be strengthened by further interagency action. If the Congress should 

 adopt the comprehensive legislation expressed in H.R. 4276, however, it would 

 be useful to redefine our depository responsibility in order to assure that the 

 collection, preservation and documentation of marine organisms is given proper 

 emphasis in the expansion of oceanographie activities. 



In response to the committee's request for language the following is suggested 

 as an additional subparagraph of section 9(a) : 



"(5) to serve as the depository of all collections of marine and aquatic organ- 

 isms made pursuant to this act when such collections are no longer needed for 

 investigations in progress and are accepted by the Secretary." 



There is enclosed in further response to your request an organization chart of 

 the Smithsonian Institution. 

 Sincerely yours, 



Leonabd Carmichael, Secretary. 



Mr. DiNGELL. You may advise the Bureau of the Budget and if 

 they are rekictant to cooperate, I would appreciate being notified. 



You mentioned that it was your feeling that this is being done by 

 Executive order, or at least the provisions of H.R. 4276 are being 

 substantially carried out by Executive order. 



Is it your feeling we do not exactly need this bill to make it a 

 part of the oceanographie arts and sciences ? 



Dr. Carmichael. Mr. Chairman, I think my answer is that it is the 

 helief of the Smithsonian Institution that if the present arrangement 

 for oceanography is facilitated and carried forward in the most effec- 

 tive way possible, it would be possible for us to perform the functions 

 that are necessary under the existing regulations. 



However, as an andividual, and in view of the discussion I have 

 heard here this morning, I do not feel I am competent to say that 

 this legislation is not needed, 



Mr. DiNGELL. Doctor, I want to thank you very much. 



Mr. Lennon. One more word, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Pellt. Mr. Chairman ? 



Mr. DiNGELL. I would be glad to yield to either one of you. 



Mr. Lennon. Dr. Carmichael, you have seen the bill ? 



Dr. Carmichael. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. You have studied the language in section 9 on page 

 5 of the bill with reference to the Smithsonian Institution ? 



Dr. Carmichael. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Chairman, I overlooked this the other day, but 

 Prof. Edwin J. Lewis of the George Washington University School of 

 Business and International Affairs, in his testimony specifically recom- 

 mended, speaking of the part that you would play under section 9 

 of the bill, concludes in his testimony with reference to the Smith- 

 sonian by saying : 



There would be considerable merit, therefore, in adding both of these agencies 

 to Council membership. 



He means there the Smithsonian and Health, Education, and Wel- 

 fare. I am reminded that someone else is thinking of you. 



