304 OCEANOGRAPHY 1961 — PHASE 3 



Mr. Cox. I see no advantage, Mr. Bauer. 



Mr. Bauer. With respect to the question of sampling at sea in 

 synoptic fashion of biology, referring to plankton, is it not true the 

 development of high speed samplers that can be used with a ship 

 of opportunity, as it has been called — a merchant ship traversing a 

 certain course — would that not be a highly desirable development? 



Mr. Cox. Again I would ask Dr. Olive to speak on that. You 

 are getting two witnesses here for the price of one. He is a zoologist, 

 I am a botanist. 



Mr. Olive. I came along for the ride. 



Mr. Cox. You are getting one. 



Mr. Olive. Certainly the techniques being developed, referring to 

 such things as use of the Hardy plankton sampler, is extremely ef- 

 ficient. The Toronto sampler is another that has been explored. It 

 would seem the potential has not been tapped, that as Dr. Cox men- 

 tioned, ships traversing the same route over and over approximately, 

 could give us much in terms of zoogeographic information that is 

 lacking. There are great gaps. We collect only sporadically. 

 Somebody said it is like taking a plant grab from a jet aircraft as you 

 speed over the desert. This is about where our state of knowledge 

 is at this time. 



Mr. Bauer. Dr. Cox, you mentioned strengthening section 9. 

 Would you be willing to give the committee the benefit of your think- 

 ing as to possibly how it could be strengthened? 



Mr. Cox. Which section is that? 



Mr. Bauer. The one on the Smithsonian. You are familiar with 

 the cooperative program of the Scandinavian countries Dr. Thorson 

 is interested in — Sweden, Finland, Norway, and Denmark. 



Mr. Olive. I am aware of that. 



Mr. Bauer. Do you think his approach is a good one ? 



Mr. Olive. I am not sure I completely understand which portion of 

 the approach. 



Mr. Bauer. "lAHiiere they exchange students to study the various 

 areas between the countries. 



Mr. Olive. That is the one I hoped you were talking about. 



Mr. Bauer. Mr. Chairman, I have a personal letter from Dr. Thor- 

 son in Copenhagen, which he has given me permission to insert in the 

 record. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Without objection, it is so ordered. 



(Dr. Thorson's letter follows:) 



Maeinbiologisk Laboratorium, 



K0BENHAVNS UNIVETSITET, 



Gr0nnehave, Selsing0r, November 23, 1960. 

 Mr. Patjl S. Bauer, 



ConsultoMt to 8.P.E.C. Subcommittee on Oceanography, 

 House of Representatives, Washington, B.C. 



Dear Paul S. Bauer : Thank you so very much for your letter, too long ago, 

 and for your two kind telephone calls from Washington. It often happens to me, 

 that letters and questions, which I feel I have to answer especially thoroughly, 

 are postponed and postponed, because I never find time to do it well enough. 



Today, however, I have finally managed to "take a day out of my life" to give 

 you a detailed answer on your questions, and here it is. 



In Denmark we have two main institutes of marine biology : The Practical 

 Fishery Investigations (address: Charlottenlund Slot, Charlottenlund. Direc- 

 tor Dr. Erik Bertelsen) under the Ministery of Fisheries. A part of this institute 



