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economic, military and social pay-off will certainly result, probably much 

 faster than we expect, and so I would suggest that we all get together and push 

 the notion, try to promote the program. It will be worthwhile for the nation and 

 marine science. 



HORN 



Might I say just one thing. I think Dr. Spilhaus' address this morning was 

 one of the most exciting addresses I have ever heard in my life. In terms of 

 holding up to us the projections for the future of what is possible, I think it 

 probably is a lot better that we talk, not about oceanography, but about ocean 

 engineering, as he did this morning. In this broader concept, in spite of the fact 

 that some of these things sound so fantastic, I'm positive that time is going to 

 prove Dr. Spilhaus correct. Anything we can do to provide individuals with the 

 sort of a creative imagination Dr. Spilhaus has displayed, individuals who want 

 to see if what he has put before us can actually materialize, deserves our widest 

 support. And I hope, therefore, that we can get these people, turn them loose, 

 and see what they'll come up with, see whether or not this massive projection 

 Dr. Spilhaus has made will not in 10, 15, 20, or 25 years actually come to pass. 

 The world will be a much better place if it does. 



SPILHAUS 



Thank you. If we cease to dream, we'll wither and die as human beings, 

 and in all this discussion of money and who gets it, I can just say I'm glad that 

 this idea of mine is greater than the money we have to implement it. Otherwise, 

 I would feel intellectually bankrupt. 



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