SEA GRANT COLLEGES 



TUESDAY, MAY 3, 1966 



U.S. Senate, 

 Special. Subcommitit.e on Sea Grant Colleges 

 OF THE Committee on Labor and Public Welfare, 



Washington, D.C. 



The special subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, in room 4232, New 

 Senate Office Building, at 10 a.m., Senator Claiborne Pell (Chairman) 

 presiding. 



Present: Senators Pell (presiding), Kennedy of Massachusetts, and 

 Murphy. 



Committee staff present : Fitzhugh Green, special assistant to Sena- 

 tor Pell: Stewart E. McClure, chief clerk; Roy Millenson, minority 

 clerk. 



Senator Pell. The Subcommittee on Sea Grant Colleges, bill S. 

 2439, will resume its sessions after a day of hearings at the University 

 of Rhode Island yesterday. 



As chairman of the subcommittee I made an opening statement yes- 

 terda}' which will appear in the record, and to save the time of the wit- 

 nesses, there is no particular need to repeat my statement. I think 

 the first witness who was scheduled to be here, a fellow committee mem- 

 ber. Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts, is not here yet. 



Is Re])resentative Rogers here ? Pie is not here. 



Then I think we will move straight ahead with the executive depart- 

 ment witnesses, and if you will excuse me, we will put in the legis- 

 lative witnesses as they come in. 



Is Dr. Bates here ? 



Dr. Bates, will you come forward, please. 



Dr. Bates is science adviser to the Department of the Interior and 

 is coming here in behalf of his Department. 



STATEMENT OF DR. THOMAS P. BATES, SCIENCE ADVISER, DEPART- 

 MENT OF THE INTERIOR ; ACCOMPANIED BY DONALD McKERNAN, 

 DIRECTOR, BUREAU OF COMMERCIAL FISHERIES; AND HOWARD 

 ECKLES 



Senator Pell. Would you identify yourself and also the gentleman 

 accompanying you ? 



Dr. Bates. Yes. I would like to introduce on my right Mr. Don 

 McKernan, who is Director of the Bureau of Commercial Fisheries 



Senator Pell. Speak up a little louder so the people in the back can 

 hear you. 



Dr. Bates. Donald McKernan, Director of the Bureau of Fisheries, 

 Department of Interior, and also I have with me in the audience my 

 assistant, Mr. Howard Eckles, who I believe you met at Rhode Island. 



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