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lines of this bill is needed to supply the focus that is needed in the field of marine 

 science. The concept of developing skilled personnel, such as engineers and 

 technicians, to exploit oiir marine resources is sound. We agree that the 

 National Science Foundation should play a major role with respect to basic 

 research and scientific education in this area. We believe, however, that the 

 Department of the Interior must continue to play a major role in programs aimed 

 at exploiting marine resources because of our present expertise in basic marine 

 research and in the management and development of these resources. 



The Department of the Interior now has broad authority to conduct research 

 directly in marine resources and for supporting such authorities in marine science 

 institutions. Some of these authorities are the Fish and Wildlife Act of 1956, as 

 amended (16 U.S.C. 742a), the Commercial Fisheries Research and Develop- 

 ment Act of 1964 (16 U.S.C. 779-779f), the Water Resources Research Act of 

 1964 (42 U.S.C. 1961 et seq.), and the act of October 30. 1965 (79 Stat. 1125). 

 Also, the Department manages the resources of the Outer Continental Shelf under 

 the act of May 20, 1964 (16 U.S.C. 1081-1085) and the Outer Continental Shelf Act 

 (43 U.S.C. 1331 et seq.). In addition, we are requesting Congress to give the 

 Secretary authority to expand our contract research activities in this area and 

 other areas of importance to this Department. 



S. 944 which is now awaiting final action covers a number of activities included 

 in this bill. Your committee may wish to await the outcome of S. 944 before 

 taking final action on this bill. 



The Bureau of the Budget has advised that there is no objection to the presenta- 

 tion of this report from the standpoint of the administration's program. 

 Sincerely yours, 



Stanley A. Cain, 

 Assistant Secretary of the Interior. 



Dr. Bates. I agree. I believe this was put in with the understand- 

 ing that things were moving very rapidly with that bill and hopefully 

 it would soon come out of the committee and therefore this would not 

 mean any delay. 



Senator Pell. Eight. 



Thank you very much indeed, Dr. Bates. There are some further 

 questions here. 



Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts. Dr. Bates, Avhat is your esti- 

 mate of the amoimt of fmids which would be necessary to run tliis 

 program ? 



Dr. Bates. We have not, in preparing this testimony, gone so far 

 as to make such estimates. I would be glad to proceed, to do so and 

 give you a ball park idea. 



Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts. I think that would be helpful. 



(A memorandum subsequently supplied by Dr. Bates follows:) 



Memorandum From Dr. Thomas F. Bates, Science Adviser, Department of the 



Interior 



The Department estimates that after a buildup of 8 to 4 years for organiza- 

 tional purposes, $30 to .$35 million per year would be required to take full ad- 

 vantage of the capabilities of a number of sea grant centers. This recognizes 

 that operations at sea are more expensive than most types of land-based research 

 and development. It also recognizes that the program should be a highly varied 

 one with colleges specializing in different subjects according to needs and oppor- 

 ttinities in each area. 



Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts. Since so mucli of this program 

 is involved at the university level, it does seem to me that the National 

 Science Foundation is the agency where this should be located. 



However, although I know you respect your sister agency, I would 

 be interested if you could draw that distinction somewhat more pre- 

 cisely between the National Science Foundation and the Department 

 of the Interior. 



