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met by the committee, that the bill would be agreeable to the ad- 

 ministration, because as you know, from the viewpoint of actual 

 passage, it is very important that there be some specific statement of 

 approval of the Bureau of the Budget. 



Captain Snyder. I think each agency's official submission to you 

 does have in its end paragraph that the Bureau of the Budget has no 

 objection, again, stated, not in the statements, but in the official letters 

 that the heads of each agency write to you in their comments on the 

 bill. 



For example, the National Science Foundation's statement says in 

 its final paragraph : 



The Bureau of the Budget has advised us that it has no objection to the sub- 

 mission of this report from the standpoint of the administration's program. 



So that if the agency, the majority of agencies, are in favor of it 

 and they all contain this statement, as I understand it, that is the 

 Bureau of the Budget's concurrence. 



Senator Pell. And, as I understand it, your Interagency Committee 

 is the key executive branch group for coordinating executive branch's 

 opinion and 3^ou are authorized, in this connection, then, to speak on 

 behalf of the Bureau of the Budget so that if — and I am not saying 

 that the committee will agree to the various points raised in your state- 

 ment, but if all the points were accepted, would this bill be agreeable 

 to the Bureau of the Budget ? 



Captain Snyder. I thnik I would have to directly ask them but it 

 is my impression that it would be agreeable, as stated. 



Senator Pell. Right. I think it would be of help after we have 

 discussed this, if a letter could be forthcoming from the Bureau of the 

 Budget to this effect and maybe Mr. Green of my staff could be in touch 

 with you in this regard. 



Now, another question is, with regard to the matching formula idea, 

 which we had not thought of in the basic bill. It may have merits. 

 Have you thought of the idea of what formula — 50-50, 90-10, 75-25 ? 



Captain Snyder. Speaking for Dr. Morse, Dr. Morse has kicked this 

 around in his own mind and has not come to any firm formula. This 

 is only a suggestion on his part because there are many things that 

 have to be taken into consideration — the exact nature of the program — 

 and it may not be true that the apportioned formula would be the 

 same as rigid guideline. 



Senator Pell. What about the viewpoint of the Bureau of the 

 Budget? Do they have any view as to what the formula should be? 



Captain Snyder. No, sir. They have not expressed any view, sir. 



Senator Pell. But they do have a view that it would be a good idea, 

 presumably. 



Captain Snyder. They accept that, sir. 



Senator Pell. The}^ accept it. I see. But, from the viewpoint of 

 the Government, if it was a 90-10 percent formula, 90 percent Federal, 

 10 percent State, which would show some sort of State interest or com- 

 mitment, that would be acceptable to the executive branch of the 

 Government and the Bureau of the Budget, in your view. 



Captain Snyder. That is my understanding. And my under- 

 standing is, also, what you just expressed, that the real reason for 

 this is that a person doesn't have a stake unless he has an interest, 

 and the best way to insure interest is actual dollars out-of-pocket. 



