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out in the verbal exchange. I realize the statement he made had tliis 

 emphasis. I want to refresh my memory on that. 



Captam Snyder. I didn't mean to infer by that, that the Smith- 

 sonian wouldn't accept it. I merely meant to infer that my under- 

 standing of the Smithsonian's role is that it is a more narrow role 

 than even the National Science Foundation in this field. 



Senator Pell. Right. I will revert to that in a moment because 

 I am getting a copy of the statement. 



There are several other questions that I would like to ask, not only 

 in behalf of the minority who have offered them, but, they are very 

 sound questions and I share their viewpoint in this, just to get it in 

 the record. 



What executive agencies comprise the ICO? Maybe you can 

 submit a list for the record. Fine. Just the 18 different 



Captain Snyder. Well, there are only eight or nine. Actually, 

 when they refer to 20 or 22, they are referring to subdivisions with- 

 in, say, the Navy Department and Commerce Department. 



Senator Pell. Maybe you can submit for the record, for inclusion 

 at this point, a list of the agencies that compose the ICO and a break- 

 down of the Government agencies which are presently involved in the 

 administration of oceanological work. 



Captain Snyder. Yes, sir. 



(The information subsequently supplied follows:) 



Interagency Committee on Oceanography 



Department of Defense : Hon. Robert W. Morse (chairman). 



Atomic Energy Commission : Dr. Jolin N. Wolfe. 



Commerce : Vice Adm. H. Arnold Karo. 



Health, Education, and Welfare : Mr. Harry G. Hanson. 



Interior : Mr. Donald L. McKernan. 



National Science Foundation : Dr. Harve J. Carlson. 



Smithsonian Institution : Dr. I. E. Wallen. 



State : Mr. Herman Pollack. 



Treasury : Rear Adm. William W. Childress. 



OBSERVERS 



Bureau of the Budget : Mr. E. L. Dillon. 



Council of Economic Advisers : Dr. Guy Black. 



National Academy of Sciences Committee on Oceanography : Dr. Milner B. 



Schaefer. 

 Office of Science and Technology : Dr. H. William Menard. 

 ICO Executive Secretary : Mr. Robert B. Abel. 



Senator Pell. What do you estimate the cost for each of the first 

 5 fiscal years of this bill, what do you think would be the cost of 

 this administration ? Do you have any thoughts ? 



Captain Snyder. I really couldn't answer that without having seen 

 the real specifics of the bill. 



Senator Pell. My question here is. Since the Bureau of the Budget 

 would prefer not to tie it into the rents and royalties, what do they 

 think would be fair authorization for the bill, for the first 5 years? 

 Mr. Abel. 



Mr. Abel. If we can go back a couple of statements. Senator, we 

 were originally discussing the application of this bill, talking about 

 the Federal-State relationships as limits, and then, within these 



