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What we are now undertaking to do is to join with the naval labora- 
tories, the scientific institutions, the Weather Bureau, the Atomic 
Energy Commission, and other entities interested in the same piece of 
ocean to draw up a program, a comprehensive program of research 
for this largely unknown section of ocean which is so important now 
to the Nation’s defense as well as our little piddling skipjack produc- 
tion. We have as much shipping go through that area ourselves as 
anybody else, and we are hardly set up to gather the information 
that the Navy wants. The Navy will fix us up with instrumentation 
and a little assistance on how to run it. We have boat time in there. 
That is expensive. 
With the cooperation of the Navy, which we are going to begin 
to get, I think we can help the Navy materially in the area. 
I will mention the second field of our interest, if I can skip away 
and drop that, here on the coast of California itself, and the coast of 
Oregon and Washington. Mr. Reid will tell you more about that. 
I may say that the State of California in this little bit of ocean 
covered by my fingers spends in the neighborhood of $2 million a 
year in ocean research. I remember the State committee that helped 
in this respect. We have been doing that for the last 10 years, and 
we believe that the waters within 500 miles of the State of California 
are better known and understood than any section of the ocean in 
the world, with the possible exception of the Northeast where the 
have been in about three times as long as we have. 
While we feel that that is the case, we are very dissatisfied with the 
state of our situation out there. Many new demands for this informa- 
ton are coming upon us from the Atomic Energy Commission, from 
the State pollution board, from the State small harbors commission, 
from the State beach erosion board, and sports fishermen, and every 
other Tom, Dick, and Harry who learns that he can use the ocean. We 
are not set up to adequately provide the information that these people 
want, in spite of our large program. Therefore, the committee at its 
last meeting in San Francisco, in early March, did two things: It 
asked the Governor to cause to be convened a committee of the nature 
of NASCO—the National Academy of Science on Oceanography—to 
look over our whole ocean research program in the State of California, 
how it is integrated to the needs of the State of California, and also of 
the Nation, and how it is integrated with the research program envis- 
ioned in this bill and in the NASCO reports. 
We are in hope that the Governor will ask the National Academy of 
Science for use of a panel thereof to aid us in that, so that our program 
which eventuates will be as well done as that one was, and also we will 
integrate into the Nation’s overall ocean program. 
The second thing we have done—and you will be surprised how hard 
this has come—we asked our collaborating scientists to forget about 
budgets for the time, to forget about budgetary controls, and draw us 
up a program of what ought to be done out there. The first time they 
did this, the first round at this, it was rather surprising that they 
couldn’t do this. They had been working under strong budgetary 
controls for so long, with skimpy funds, that they found it difficult to 
think in the broad way that the committee wanted them to do. 
We sent their report back to them and asked them to do it over 
again. They did come up at our March meeting with what we felt to 
