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the importance of specific areas and specific developments. Some kind 
of organization of this sort, I think, would be necessary. 
Senator Scuorrret. And do you have a feeling—it is foreign to me, 
in a sense—that that can be done with reasonable satisfaction? In 
other words, no one wants to be precluded, I can see that. 
Dr. Fernaup. That is correct. 
Senator ScHorrren. But to get the utmost in it at the beginning, 
it should be centralized in certain areas, it would seem to me. 
Dr. Fernatp. Yes. There would have to be judgments made. As 
I have indicated here, each small laboratory can play a role. There 
have to be judgments in terms of how that role can best fit a general 
picture, I think, and the support in a sense determined on that basis. 
I might comment on a statement you made in the beginning about 
the interest in the shore States in the marine installations. The in- 
land States have an interest here in that most or many of the inland 
universities require or recommend that as a part of the advanced 
degree training in many of their biological degree sciences. A num- 
ber of our students come from the inland universities—from the Mid- 
west and so on. 
Senator ScHorpren. Thank you very much. 
The Cuamrman. Thank you, Doctor. We appreciate your coming 
I will see you at Friday Harbor. 
Dr. Fernatp. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
(Biographical sketch follows :) 
RopeRtT LESLIE FERNALD 
Address: Friday Harbor Laboratories, University of Washington, Seattle, 
Wash. 
Major field of interest : Developmental biology. 
Born: Larchland, Il., August 27, 1914. 
Degrees: B.A., Monmouth College, 1987; Ph. D., University of California, 
1941. 
Professional career: Instructor, zoology, Coe College, 1941-42; instructor 
zoology, University of Washington, 1946-47: assistant professor, 1947-59; as- 
sociate professor 1959 to present; acting director of Friday Harbor Labora- 
tories, 1958-60; director, 1960 to present: U.S. Navy, 1942-46. 
Member: American Association for Advancement of Science, American In- 
stitute of Biological Science, American Society of Zoologists, and Western 
Society of Naturalists. 
Scientific contributions in experimental embryology of amphibians, repro- 
ductive biology and development of marine invertebrates. 
The CHarrman. Dr. Roger Revelle is director, Scripps Institu- 
tion of Oceanography, La Jolla, Calif. He has been before the com- 
mittee before and we are glad to see him back on this legislation. 
STATEMENT OF DR. ROGER REVELLE, DIRECTOR OF THE SCRIPPS 
INSTITUTION OF OCEANOGRAPHY, LA JOLLA, CALIF. 
Dr. Revetis. Thank you very much, Senator. I am glad to see 
that not only do we have our chairman from the great State of Wash- 
ington, where I was born, but also the Senator from the State of 
California, where I worked and spent most of my life. 
The CHarrman. And you have probably gone through Kansas on 
several occasions. 
Senator Enete. Thank you very much, Doctor; it is good to see 
you here. 
