82 MARINE SCIENCE 
The Cuatrman. I think that probably all of these interests in ma- 
rine things are usually not self-started with young people, and I think 
that perhaps the work of many people in this room, and perhaps some 
of us up here, during the past 3 or 4 years, has done a little to call 
attention to this field which was sort of dormant for awhile. 
Dr. Revette. I am sure that this is true, sir. With the very evident 
congressional and Federal interest helping. 
The Cuarrman. The interest of the National Academy, you people, 
are the ones who started it. 
Dr. Revetiz. Yes; it has helped alot. It is also because we are get- 
ting more people in this country, and more people interested in sci- 
ence. It is also, I think, because there is a growing realization that 
these sciences that deal with the environment are not only very im- 
portant but an awful lot of fun, that it is a wonderful way to spend 
your life. 
I must add, however, that we still have a great shortage of trained 
people. That is particularly true in what we call physical oceanog- 
raphy, that is the study of the currents, the motions of the waters, and 
the chemical and physical properties of the waters. It is also true in 
marine biology; really in every aspect of marine biology, but particu- 
larly in the study of the life histories, the classification, the shapes, 
and distribution of marine organic items. 
Both of these points that I have tried to make so far illustrate 
something about the National Academy report which I know you will 
all keep in mind, and that is that this report is not intended to be a 
blueprint but simply a kind of a framework illustrating what could be 
done and what needed to be done. No member of the National Acad- 
emy of Sciences, and certainly no member of this Committee on 
Oceanography, is either a seer or a prophet. All we could do is esti- 
mate as best we could what the needs were and what the possibilities 
were. So I do hope that in any legislative action that you won’t take 
this report too literally asa kind of a straitjacket. 
The Cuarrman. A guideline. 
me REVELLE. It is essentially a statement of possibilities and the 
needs. 
The Cuarrman. Roger, on page 4 of your statement, I think you 
get right to the meat of the thing. I think we all understand this 
problem of personnel and laboratory facilities. I think you get to 
the meat of that at page 4, at the top of the page where you quote a 
portion of the bill and what has been done and what we should go on 
to do, which is, of course, again a guideline. I would like to have you 
read that section of your statement. 
Dr. Reverie. C. Cordination, sustained growth, and leadership: 
As so well stated in S. 901— 
there must be a coordinated, long-range program of oceanographic research 
and marine surveys * * * 
We are not proposing a crash program such as faced the Nation at 
the start of the space race. We are proposing instead a sustained and 
py growth to meet serious scientific, resource, and military 
needs. 
: 1. Some significant steps forward have been taken during the last 
years: 
(a) Funds for new ships have been allocated. 
