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To train men to become professional research scientists, tliey must 

 be given continuous and varied practice in research, and this cannot 

 be an artificial problem invented for class exercises. 



They must be real problems to be solved by active participation of 

 the student alongside an experienced and skilled research scientist. 



Thus, the only realistic kind of support for universities given the 

 responsibility of training oceanographers is for support for research 

 programs. It is fortunate that this kind of support serves two valuable 

 purposes: to solve the problems faced by the United States in its 

 pursuit of understanding of the ocean, and to train scientists who will 

 staff the laboratories and programs for future assault on these 

 problems. 



In the bills to strengthen oceanography and fishery research which 

 you are considering, Mr. Chairman, specific provisions should be made 

 for the kind of support for universities which I have been talking 

 about, including the granting of specific authorization and direction 

 to the Fish and Wildlife Service or its successors to support and fi- 

 nance grants and contracts to the universities for fishery problems. 



Mr. Chairman, in conclusion I would state that in my humble judg- 

 ment, based on what we now have available for us and analyzing the 

 prospects that are possible, it would seem to me that the best approach 

 to this problem lies in H.R. 5654 which has already passed the Senate 

 committee as S. 944. A council which will lay out a national program 

 and provide high level coordination would be the way to move now, 

 keeping in mind always your committee's continued interest in the 

 program and the availability and desirability of making changes as 

 circmnstances may warrant in the future. 



Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, let me thank you 

 for allowing us the opportunity to be here with you today to discuss 

 this important subject. Let me congratulate all of you for your con- 

 tinued interest in a subject which has too long been neglected and I 

 am delighted that you have spent the years and the time that you have 

 and that you keep prodding on this problem so something will get 

 done. 



Mr. Lennon. Unless there is objection, gentlemen, I ask unanimous 

 consent that the full text of Congressman Fascell's statement be made 

 a part of this record. 



(The statement referred to follows :) 



Statement of Hon. Dante B. Fascell, a Representative in Congress From 

 THE State of FloriuxV 



Mr. Chairman, I appreciate very much this opportunity to testify before your 

 subcommittee in support of H.R. 5654, the National Oceanographic Act of 1965. 

 I introduced this bill on March 2 to provide for expanded research in the oceans 

 and the Great Lakes, to establish a National Oceanographic Council, and for other 

 purposes. 



This bill has two major legislative purposes. One is to establish a clear set 

 of policy objectives for this Nation's marine sciences and engineering, and the 

 second is to provide sustained, high-level leadership, guidance, and cooridna- 

 tion of the program which is necessai-ily supported in relation to missions of 

 a number of separate agencies rather than one. 



H.R. 5654 correspond to S. JM4 sponsored by Senator Warren G. Magnuson 

 and others, and I am happy to note that S. 944 was unanimously voted out 

 favorably, with amendments, by the Senate Committee on Commerce on July 15. 

 I am hopeful that the testimony you will receive in these current hearings, 

 including considerations that I shall outline subsequently, will lead to your 

 committee's favorable action on this legislation. In this regard, I want to strongly 



