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ideal for that type of work, with a fine university in our State. Any- 

 thing that woidd be done to exj^and oceanography, we feel that our 

 area could make a contribution in this area. 



This council that this bill projDOses would certainly make everything 

 available that is going on. As you indicated, these people are working, 

 and we are not being critical of them, except that Ave ought to know 

 what everybody is doing, and to expand on these facilities. 



Mr. Casey. Don't j^ou apologize for introducing a bill for selfish, 

 motives. Practically everything in this world is done on a selfish 

 basis, in some degree. You are either after credit, or you are after 

 l^rofit, or you are after help for some friend or some institution. 



Just like you, I am a little selfish and have a little special interest. 

 We have just a new organization called, I think it is, the Gulf Univer- 

 sities Research Association — I believe I have got the name right — just 

 recently created, which two universities in my hometown, my own city, 

 Houston, the University of Houston and Rice University are members 

 of it, Texas A. & M. and, incidentally, Texas A. & ]\I. has been in the 

 oceanography field for some time, and is gaining stature quite a bit, 

 and the University of Texas, Florida State, LSU, if I recall correctly, 

 are those that have so far joined it, and I believe that they expect to 

 have Mississippi and Georgia and Alabama all in this, to form a united 

 approach instead of each university trying to 



Mr. HtjOT. Yes ; do a project of their own. 



Mr. Casey. They want to pool the resources and, by the same token, 

 it follows everything that you recommend in the bill instead of one 

 university trying to get research grants, they pool their efforts for 

 a united development of a research program. 



I want to commend you for your efforts in this regard, and I assure 

 you that you have contributed a lot here. 



Mr. HuoT. Thank you very much, Mr. Casey. 



Mr. LenjSton. If the members will refer to the compilation of the 

 oceanography bills that are pending before the committee, and will 

 turn to paee 27, vou will see a somewhat brief analvsis of the bill, H.R. 

 5654, by Mi\ Fascell, H.R. 6512 by Mr. Fuhon of' Pennsylvania, H.R. 

 7301 by Mr. Hanna, and H.R. 7798, the bill to which the witness is 

 speaking now. 



And we know now that Senate bill 99-1 at the time of its introduction 

 was identical with your bill. Congressman, but when it was reported 

 out of the committee of the Senate, it was reported with amendments, 

 and it does differ to some degree. 



If the members of the committee will take that compilation and turn 

 to the brief analysis of these bills, which the remarks are now being 

 addressed to. I think they would find it advantageous to them. 



Any questions, Mr. Rogers, of the witness ? 



Mr. Rogers. Mr. Chairman, I just want to say that I do appreciate 

 the testimony here and the interest of the gentlemen in this problem, 

 and I think and agree that something has got to be done, and that by 

 working together, I am sure we will come out with a solution that I am 

 hoDef ul will be acceptable to the President. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lexnox. Yes. Mr. Downing ? 



Mr. DowNixG. Thank vou, Mr. Chairman. 



