NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 175 



Mr. Downing. Tliaiik you, sir. 



Mr.LENNON. Mr. Pelly? 



Mr. Pelly. Well, I just want to say from this side of the aisle that 

 I know those of us here want to join in complimenting Mr. Downing 

 and to say that I am particularly pleased that he has stated that any 

 step in so many words, any step in the direction of progress, he will 

 support, because I think that he will agree with me, our chairman 

 has shown real leadership in a practical way here in trying to iron 

 out some of the differences between the executive branch and the 

 Congress, and I look forward with him to reporting some legislation 

 that will move in the right direction. 



Mr. Downing. Thank you, Mr. Pelly. I agree with you completely. 

 Our chairman has done a tremendous job in getting this off the 

 ground. 



Mr. Pelly. Well, I think his approach is the one that will meet 

 the objectives that you have stated in your very fine statement. 



Mr. Downing. Thank you, sir. 



Mr.LENNON. Mr. Rogers? 



Mr. Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I, too, concur in the feeling that the gentleman has stated that we 

 must do something, and we must know where we are going, that just 

 to jump into some large organization quickly probably is not the best 

 approach, but, rather, it is more the part of wisdom to know exactly 

 where we are going, and to have a commission with some range, as 

 the gentleman has proposed in his bill, of all the interests, to let them 

 help to formulate the movement in the correct direction; so I com- 

 mend the gentleman for his strong interest, and certainly agree with 

 him. 



Mr. Downing. Thank you, sir. 



Mr.LENNON. Mr. Reinecke? 



Mr. Reinecke. Thank you, sir. 



I, too, like my colleagues, would like to join in congratulating Mr. 

 Downing. 



As an agreement, I have introduced an identical bill. 



I don't think I need to say any more, except that it was a fine state- 

 ment. 



Thank you, sir. 



Mr.LENNON. Thank you. 



Mr. Dow ? 



Mr. Dow. I have a great deal of sympathy with your remarks, Mr. 

 Downing, but at this time I have no questions. 



Mr. Downing. Thank you, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Downmg, before you leave the witness seat, your 

 bill, 9667, is identical with the bill of the gentleman from Florida, 

 Mr. Rogers, 9064, and another member of the subcommittee, Mr. 

 Reinecke, of California, H.R. 9483, and another gentleman from Cali- 

 fornia in the room at this time, Mr. Hanna, H.R. 9617. 



Have you had an opportunity to read the comments of the Director, 

 Dr. Hornig, of the Office of Science and Technology, in response to 

 a letter from Chairman Bonner on H.R. 5654, which is found — you 

 might want to make a note of this, Tom — on page 38 of the compila- 

 tion of the bills pending before the committe ? And, more specifically, 

 the comments of Dr. Hornig of the Office of Science and Technology, 



