176 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



Executive Office of the President, dated July 6, 1965, concerning your 

 bill — that is, at^ the time the entry was submitted, it was Mr. Rogers' 

 bill, 9064, which is identical with your bill, 9667, which is found on 

 page 106 ? 



It is interesting to note the comments of Dr. Horning on page 39, 

 and we will query him about that at the appropriate time, but you 

 might be reading them, because you will be back up on the podium 

 and have a chance to ask questions, too. 



Thank you very much, Mr. Downing. 



Mr. Downing. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Hanna, we are delighted to welcome you to the 

 committee, and we will expect to hear from you now in support of 

 your bill, H.R. 9617. 



STATEMENT OF HON. RICHARD T. HANNA, A REPRESENTATIVE 

 IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA 



Mr, Hanna. Mr. Chairman, and members of the committee, I would 

 like to make first an opening statement on a broader base, about this 

 whole hearing, in which you are trying to take an overview of what is 

 being suggested in oceanography. May I say that it does this com- 

 mittee and its leadership great credit that you are taking this kind of 

 an approach at this time, because I think the proliferations as have 

 been indicated need to be focused in order to get effective action. 



I think that perhaps the committee knows, I think that maybe in 

 other places the reports of the committee may reflect, that the national 

 oceanographic program at the present time for the fiscal year 1965 

 amounted to $135.1 million. Now, this program does not include ap- 

 plied oceanography of a military classified nature, and it is reported 

 that about $80 to $380 million is being expended there. 



This does not include certain programs such as Mohole, which is 

 categorized under earth science, but it is happening out in the ocean. 

 It does not reflect the unclassified engineering programs the Navy has 

 on deep submergence which were initiated by the Thresher loss. 



It does not include, for instance, the States' expenditures which were 

 from $7 to $9 million ; private endowments, which are from $2 to $3 

 million ; the in-house industry research, which is from $3 to $5 million ; 

 and the geophysical surveys being made by oil companies which amount 

 to $200 million. 



It indicates that the United States is involved officially and in all 

 of its activities in expenditure of from $427 million to $732 million, 

 somewhere along the line, in oceanography for this fiscal year. 



Now, that may appear to be quite a bit of money in one view. But, 

 on the other hand, I think that this committee knows and appreciates 

 the fact of the great potential that there is in the ocean, and I think 

 perhaps you knew before I did that about 80 percent of the whole 

 population of the United States is encompassed in that area which 

 you could describe by drawing a line 50 miles in from all of our waters. 

 That is, if you went in 50 miles from the Atlantic Ocean, from the 

 gulf, from the Pacific Ocean, you Avould encompass 80 percent of the 

 people of the country, and all of these, it seems to me, have a contiguity 

 and an understanding and some kind of contact with these waters, 

 and what we are talking about; and I think it is an exciting thing to 



