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Mr. Hanna. That is, for the State of California. 



Mr. Casey. Beg pardon? 



Mr, Hanna. For the State of California. 



I am not encroaching on Texas, but I mean for the State of Califor- 

 nia, 80 to 85 percent of the oil extracted from the tidelands in Califor- 

 nia is extracted off the coast of Huntington Beach Oil Fields, and so I 

 certainly 



Mr. Casey. Don't wave the flag at me, because I was ready to go 

 after you. 



Mr. Hanna. I wanted to clarify that, but I just wanted to say that I 

 certainly agree with the gentleman, and I have every reason out of 

 experience to agree. 



Mr. Casey. I think the private industry and, of course, you have 

 some private foundations, too, who are to be highly commended on the 

 part that they have taken in stimulating and trying to put more 

 emphasis behind oceanography, beca^ise they have discovered m the 

 researches they have done that we have just scratched the surface, and 

 with new resources in fuels and goods and metals being needed all the 

 time, this is an untapped field which private industry is one of the firet 

 to recognize, and those in my particular community, Humble Oil, in 

 particular, because Humble Oil has been interested in all fields of 

 science; they contributed heavily to the NASA program, by making 

 large grants of land to Rice University, who in turn made it available 

 to NASA, and that all stimulates a real excellent effort which I am 

 proud to be a part of. 



Mr. Hanna. Thank you, Mr. Casey. 



Mr. Lennon. Any further questions, Mr. Casey ? 



Any further questions? 



Mr. Casey. No ; thank you. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Pelly ? 



Mr. Pelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Hanna, you are the author of H.R. 7301, 1 notice. 



Mr. Hanna. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Pelly. Which would establish in the Executive Office of th& 

 President the National Oceanographic Council. 



Now, I also have read the reports on your bill, and I find that they 

 are almost uniformity unfavorable. The administration does not 

 like that approach. 



We have mentioned before our chairman's approach, that he has 

 introduced legislation, and I joined him doing it. His bill is H.E. 

 2218, which takes the position that the President is authorized to ap- 

 point an advisory committee on oceanography, and my question is: 

 Would you support the latter approach to this thing as a step in the 

 right direction ? 



Mr. Hanna. Well, Mr. Pelly, I thank you for giving me the oppor- 

 tunity to clarify my position on that. I certainly would. 



In introducing the bill that I have introduced, which was, I think, 

 to give credit where credit was due, was Mr. Magnuson from the other 

 body. 



Mr. Pelly. I have done the same thing. 



Mr. Hanna. Yes, but the truth of the matter is that you have to 

 recognize the sensitives that exist in regard to the domains that are 

 already carved out, and you are going to have to use some really 



