200 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



agencies can be handled appropriately with the necessary organiza- 

 tion, if necessary, to bring them together, or not. You don't think 

 that a study is necessary ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON^. No, sir. I don't. 



Mr. Rogers. You do not. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No, sir. 



Mr. Rogers. You think we are ready to move right now ? 



Dr. HoLLOMOisr. I am suggesting that there are some things which 

 the Congress should be able to do and the executive branch to move 

 now. 



Mr. Rogers. Well, then, you would have us set up all the responsi- 

 bility, the basic responsibility, for ocean resources in the Interior 

 Department ? You would be willing to support this legislation ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I think I would — I speak personally on that. 



Mr. Rogers. And, then, second, you would put all of physical 

 oceanography in the Commerce Department. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No, sir. I would put the responsibility for in- 

 suring the adequate descriptions of the ocean in the Commerce De- 

 partment, but not all the physical oceanography, as I tried to describe. 



Mr. Rogers. Yes. Well, I understand. You let everyone else do 

 whatever they are doing now ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No, sir. I would insist on, as we now have, a co- 

 ordinating body for this purpose, to insure that there is not duplication 

 and overlap between the agencies. 



Mr. Rogers. Well, is that any change from the present system? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No, sir. 



Mr. Rogers. Then you don't believe the present system should be 

 changed ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. As far as coordination is concerned, I think the 

 present system operates moderately well. As far as coordination is 

 concerned. 



Mr. Rogers. Have you ever been on a study commission on oceanog- 

 raphy. Dr. Hollomon ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I have never been on one. I have listened to a large 

 number of such studies. 



Mr. Rogers. You have never participated in one ? 



Dr. Hollomon. I participated in both the President's Scientific Ad- 

 visory Committee's hearings on oceanographic studies and in the Fed- 

 eral Council's hearings on this subject. 



Mr. Rogers. And what have they come out with ? 



Dr. Hollomon. Many things. For example, there are numbers of 

 studies that have recommended a substantial strengthening of the 

 ocean survey program. 



Mr. Rogers. How did you strengthen it ? Just by money, or in the 

 organizational sense ? 



Dr. HoLLOMOx. In this instance, Mr. Rogers, money is the strength- 

 ening. 



Mr. Rogers. In other words, most of the studies have gone toward 

 the money angle ; is that right ? 



Dr. HoLLOMOx. Most, but not all. 



Mr. Rogers. But there has been no real recommendation of a change 

 from the present system nor, as I understand it, are you recommending 

 such. 



