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cies, but we went ahead to award the contract ourselves to meet a 

 specific requirement, telling them that the result of this would be 

 available for their use. 



Mr. Keith. You talked about vertical integration, a few moments 

 ago. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Right. 



Mr. Keith. And here was, it seems to me, a good opportunity to 

 have achieved that. 



I must commend you, however, on attacking at least a part of the 

 problem, but I concur with your statement as to philosophy, that, with 

 reference to the need to have coordination in a vertical or in a hori- 

 zontal plane, and it seems that in this particular contract you lost an 

 opportunity to do just that. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I think there is a slight misunderstanding. When 



When we said that this was a contract, we took the initiative to let 

 the contract ourselves, and not try to split up the funds between several 

 agencies. In other words, we funded the contract, but we discussed 

 the terms of reference of the contract with the agencies that would 

 be involved. 



Mr. Keith. But the scope of it was only that pertaining to your 

 responsibility, as I understand it, as you outlined initially. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I would like to furnish for the record, Mr. Keith, 

 the scope of the contracit. I don't have it at my fingertips. 



Mr. Keith. You say that the President has a Special Advisory 

 Committee on Oceanography. How many oceanographers are on it, 

 and who are they ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I agreed to furnish this for the record. I gave the 

 Chairman's name. I am frank to say I don't know the r^ of the com- 

 position of the Committee. I agreed to furnish it for the record. I 

 know that Dr. Munk of Scripps is one. Admiral Karo may know 

 some of the other members of the Committee. 



Mr. KJBiTH. Are any of the so-called big names of oceanography 

 on it? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Could I have a list of the members ? We are getting 

 the list of members of the Committee in just a minute. 



Mr. Keith. Well, we can come to that laJter, but it is rather interest- 

 ing to me that you don't know oflfhand whether or not any of the big 

 names of oceanography are on it, and you can't give us offhand — ap- 

 parently, other than Dr. Munk, you, personally, can't identify them. 

 Not the admiral; you. 



I don't mean to embarrass you, and if the admiral would like to 

 give it, he is your adviser. Go ahead. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No. The significance of this is that the field of 

 oceanography is one of the very important interest, and there are many, 

 many committees functioning in oceanogrphy. I just don't happen 

 to know the names of the people who are on that Committee. 



Mr. Keith. I think there ought to be an interface between the Assist- 

 ant Secretary level and such an influential committee as this one. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Oh, there will be, Mr. Keith. There will be very 

 much so. The prime reports of this Committee will be made. The 

 prime reports will be made to the President's Scientific Advisory Com- 

 mittee, to which I serve as a consultant, and to the Federal Council for 

 Science and Technology, of which I am a member, and this will be 



