NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 255 



Mr. Lennon. Well, you know that, sir, there were four bills pending 

 before this connnittee, one by the gentleman from Florida, Mr. Fascell ; 

 the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Mr. Fulton; the gentleman from 

 California, Mr. Hanna; aiid the gentleman from New Hampshire, 

 Mr. Iluot. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Those four bills that are now being considered by this 

 committee were identical with the bill. Senate bill 941-, sponsored by 

 Senator Magnuson and others; they were identical at the time they 

 were introduced and referred to this commit tee. Now, since that time, 

 S. 944 has been reported unanimously by that committee, with amend- 

 ments, and my recollection is the amenclment was related to the estab- 

 lishment of a Commission in addition to your high-level Council. 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Do you know what agencies of the Federal Govern- 

 ment engaged in this overall activity of oceanography appeared 

 before the Senate Commerce Committee or the subcommittee in the 

 consideration of Senate bill 944? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I know from my own memory that the Navy ap- 

 peared, and I am now just looking at it here. Dr. Hornig appeared; 

 Mr. Morse, the Chairman of the Interagency Committee, appeared. 

 These are the major agencies that appeared. That is, the Navy, the 

 ICO, and Dr. Hornig appeared. 



Mr. Lennon. That is the Interagency on Oceanography ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir; that is right. You had Dr. Hornig, the 

 Navy 



Mr. Lennon. And the Federal Science Director. 



Now, do you suppose that at that hearing, Mr. Secretary, it was 

 made as crystal clear there, as it has been here today, that there is now 

 in the Department of Commerce, through ESSA, the authority and the 

 responsibility not only to survey the Continental Shelf but to make 

 oceanwide surveys ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. I don't think we testified to that, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. I understand you dichi't testify. Did the Department 

 of Commerce, through any of its officers, at any level, make an appear- 

 ance before the Senate Commerce Committee on this bill? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. N"o, sir ; not this year, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Do you know whether or not the Department of Com- 

 merce has submitted its report on the bill, 994 ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes ; we have, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. And I would assume, since you made an unfavorable 

 report on the four House bills which were identical up until the time 

 the Commission was added, that, similarly, an adverse report was made 

 on that ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Captain, we are delighted to call on your technical 

 knowledge now. 



Captain Bauer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



With respect to, Mr. Secretary, the Bureau of the Budget Circular 

 A-62, November 13, 1963 ,which gave you in the Department of Com- 

 merce the coordinating authority for all weather operations, does that 

 include Fleet Weather Service? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir. 



