NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 257 



Captain Bauer. No; the ICO, or ICAS? 



Dr. IIoLLOMON. It depends on which iield. 



Captain Bauer. In other words, you have split coordination in one 

 organization. Is that correct ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. No. Of certain aspects of one organization. This 

 is the problem. You see, in any company, for example — let's take it 

 so we get outside our present — each part and diverse part of a com- 

 pany made up of many operating components, each has reseai'ch. And 

 most companies find it most efficient to have somebody coordinate each 

 of its operating components of research. What you have is some- 

 body who coordinates research. 



Another thing that has to be coordinated is engineering; another 

 thing, its manufacturing ; and it is not unreasonable to have oceanog- 

 raphy coordinated and the oceanographic program of ESSA coordi- 

 nated by one agency, and its atmospheric sciences coordinated by 

 another. 



Captain Bauter. In other words, you would be in the situation of 

 coordinating the nonclassified work of the oceanographic offices of 

 the Navy?' " 



Dr. HoLLOMON. That is a possibility, sir. 



Captain Bauer. We will find out how the Navy feels about that 

 later. 



Now, with respect to survey, this Continental Shelf sur\^ey, have you 

 made any inquiry of the oil industry that have surveyed the Conti- 

 nental Shelf of the United Staates shown here in great detail to get 

 their information, to get the data ? 



In other w^ords, are you going to duplicate what the oil industries 

 have already done? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. As I understand, our people have been in contact 

 with the oil industry in their plans or surveys. 



Captain Baiter. And they will supply you the information so you 

 ■won't have to send your ships there to do it ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Not necessarily. It could be proprietary in some 

 instances. I don't think that they will necessarily agree to supply 

 everything. 



Captain Bauer. In other words, you have come to no basic agree- 

 ment with the oil industry ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Not to my knowledge. 



Captain Bauer. You realize the funding level of industry in the 

 surveys of the Continental Shelves of the United States is around 

 $300 inillion a year ? 



Dr. HoLLOMOisr. I don't know the details of the fmiding. I can't 

 agree that that is the number, because I don't know. I do know that 

 they spend a substantial amount of money on coastal surv^eys. 



Captain Bauter. Now, when you get to the surveys of the oceans of 

 the world, wdiich you aparently are doing 



Admiral Karo. Mr. Chairman, may I discuss this earlier one? 



Mr. Lennoi^. Go ahead. 



Admiral Karo. We had representation clown to discuss this matter 

 with various geophvsical prospecting companies to see whether or not 

 the data they provide could be used to supplement our surveys. The 

 universal opinion we got from those people was that it was not the 

 type or accuracy that we required for navigationgd charts, that their 



