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Mr. Rogers. Mr. Chairman, I realize the bells have rung, and we 

 have to leave, but I just wonder before the second bell if I could ask 

 a question. 



Mr. Lennon. Go ahead. 



Mr. EoGERS. What is your total program as far as a funding of 

 money ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. $12 million, approximately. 



Mr. Rogers. About $12 million ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Yes, sir ; I think that is correct. That is not includ- 

 ing ship construction. 



Mr. Rogers. This is just for research alone ? 



Dr. HoLLOMON. Research, surveys, analyses, data collecting, and so 

 forth; about $12 million. In Commerce, it was, in fiscal — it is $13 

 million. In fiscal 1964, it was $23 million ; 1965, about $19 million. 

 And both include ship construction. The 1966 budget, about $13 

 million, which did not include ship construction. 



Mr. Rogers. Yes, sir. 



Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 



I just wanted to say that I, too, appreciate the testimony today, but 

 I am very disappointed that our departments are not more aggressive 

 in presenting the problems and holding to the status quo as much as 

 they are. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon, The committee has not adjourned, but you may go off 

 the record, now, if you will. 



(Discussion off the record.) 



Mr. Lennon. Now, the committee will resume its hearings this 

 coming Tuesday morning, at 10 o'clock, in the Longworth Building, 

 in the regular committee room, at 10 o'clock. The acoustics are a 

 little better. 



Thank you for your attendance. 



(Whereupon, at 12 :15 p.m., the hearing was recessed, to reconvene 

 at 10 a.m., Tuesday, August 10, 1965.) 



