NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 281 



The Federal Council was established by Executive order in 1959 and 

 it is composed of the top ranking person who is concerned with scien- 

 tific and technical matters in each of the agencies. 



Mr. Casey. How many are on that Council now ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. There are 11 members on the Council. 



Mr. Casey. There are how many, sir ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. Eleven. 



Mr. Casey. Is that number set by statute or who determines who 

 belongs to the Council ? 



Do you know ? I do not. 



Dr. HoRNiG. The Federal Council was established by Executive 

 order and not by statute, and the number was prescribed at that time. 



Mr. Casey. Does the President appoint the members of this Council ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. No, the members of the Council are appointed by each 

 of the agencies represented. 



Mr. Casey. Who determines which agency shall be represented? 

 Is that determined by that Executive order ? Do you recall ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. Let me recount the agencies for you. 



Mr. Casey. Put that in the record later on, will you, as to the agen- 

 cies and how the membership on the Council is determined. 



(The following material was subsequently supplied for the record:) 



The Federal Council for Science and Technology was established by Execu- 

 tive Order 10807 of March 13, 1959, which provides that : 



The Council shall be composed of the following designated members: (1) the 

 Special Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, (2) one repre- 

 sentative of each of the following named departments, who shall be designated 

 by the Secretary of the department concerned and shall be an official of the 

 department of policy rank ; the Departments of Defense, the Interior, Agri- 

 culture, Commerce, and Health, Education, and Welfare, (3) the Director of 

 the National Science Foundation, (4) the Administrator of the National Aero- 

 nautics and Space Administration, and (5) a representative of the Atonaic 

 Energy Commission, who shall be the Chairman of the Commission or another 

 member of the Commission designated by the Chairman. A representative 

 of the Secretary of State designated by the Secretary and a representative of 

 the Director of the Bureau of the Budget designated by the Director may attend 

 meetings of the Council as observers. 



jMr. Casey. You are Chairman of the Council ; are you not ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. That is right. 



Mr. Casey. Now then, the President's Science Advisory Committee. 

 Do you recall how it was created ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. Yes ; it was created by action of the President. 



Mr. Casey. Now, it, I believe you said, was composed of 10 members ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. No; the President's Science Advisory Committee is 

 composed of 17 members, all appointed by the President. 



Mr. Casey. Excuse me. 



Dr. HoRNiG. The 10 referred to the number of members of the 

 Panel on Oceanography, which was established by the President's 

 Science Advisory Committee. 



Mr. Casey. Now, the Chairman of that Panel is, you stated, Dr. 

 Gordon MacDonald ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. That is correct. 



Mr. Casey. The Advisory Committee, does it operate its own shop ? 

 In other words, it has set up this separate Committee on Ocean- 

 ographv. Are you a member also of this Science Advisory Commit- 

 tee ? 



Dr. HoRxiG. I am Chairman of the Science Advisory Committee. 



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