NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAIvI LEGISLATION 285 



Dr. HoRxiG. Yes. So, the difference is not so much in princii)les. 

 Here there are four or five major agencies involved in the program. 



Mr. Casey. Xow, you listed some of the accomplislmaents in the 

 past 5 years and I agree with you there. We want to see some more, 

 if we can, and we are trying to be helpful. 



Incidentally, what is the budget of the ICO ? 



Dr. HoRxiG. The ICO has no independent budget of its own. It 

 operates with staff members provided by the agencies. 



Mr. Casey. One item you listed, laboratories built for underwater 

 livmg, for divers to perform useful work on the sea floor for pro- 

 longed periods of time at great depth. 



How many such laboratories do we have ? 



Dr. HoRxiG. Sea Lab 1 has been built, and the second is just now 

 nearly operational. The answer is two. 



Mr. Casey. I beg your pardon. 



Dr. HoRxiG. One has been in operation and the second is entering 

 operation now. so there are two. 



Mr. Casey. T\"liere is one operatuig? 



Dr. HoRxiG. The first one operated off Bermuda, and the second 

 Avill operate off' Scripps in California. 



Mr. Casey. How long has one been in operation ? 



Dr. HoRxiG. The first one operated for about a week. 



Mr. Casey. You mean I week's operation is all we have had on this 

 Xo. 1 Sea Lab ; is that correct ? 



Dr. HoRx-iG. Dr. Morse, can I turn to you on Sea Lab, this being 

 a XavA' program. 



Dr. Morse. I think the week really refers to the length of time the 

 people were — the swinmiers were actually in the lab. Of course, the 

 program continued over a long period. In fact, the program is con- 

 tinuing. 



The Sea Lab 2, the length of time that the aquanauts wiU be down 

 will hopefully be as long as a month. That is, tliis is limited by es- 

 sentially projected endurance of people and the objectives of the 

 program. But the program as a whole is a continuing program. 



Mr. Casey. The 1 week that is referred to is the longest period that 

 they have stayed down during 



Dr. Morse. That the swimmers did stay down. 



Mr. Casey. To what depth? 



Dr. Morse. That was about 193 feet for Xo. 1, and Scripps, I thuik, 

 is 215. 



The temperature of the water is considerably colder at Scrij)ps, so 

 I tliink the demands on the swimmers are much greater than it was 

 off Bermuda. 



Mr. Casey. Are these both 1 and 2 now, being operated by the 

 Xavy? 



Dr. Morse. They both are Navy operations, yes. 



Mr. Casey. Well now, are the data that are being acquired for de- 

 fense purposes, or is it supposed to be for all types of experiments ? 



Dr. Morse. Xo, sir. In fact, many of the participants in the pro- 

 gram are from a great many of the other agencies and from organiza- 

 tions such as the Scripps Institution, it is all unclassified. In fact, the 

 report will be a public report. There is already a preliminary report 

 on Sea Lab 1, and it is unclassified. 



