286 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



Mr. Casey, Have there been any Madison Avenue "new approach" 

 in letting the public know about this ? Is there a movie on this ? 



Dr. Morse. Yes, sir. There has been a movie. We try our best to 

 publicize it. There was a dedication of the Sea Lab 2 early in July. 

 In fact, I participated in it at Long Beach. We have tried to — and I 

 think there was a good deal of press attention. I tliink I saw some- 

 thing last night in the Washington paper about the program. 



Mr. Casey. Does any other country have a similar operation ? 



Dr. Morse. Not that I know of, sir. 



Mr. Casey. Is that not kind of a first for us ? 



Dr. Morse. I agree. 



I am sorry. I think that Cousteau had similar kinds of operations 

 where people have worked and lived for some time in underwater 

 plants. 



Mr. Casey. Was this all Government financed ? 



Dr. Morse. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Casey. Was it Navy built ? 



Dr. Morse. Yes, sir; it was built at the Long Beach Naval Ship- 

 yard, but the actual container, which is of course a nonpropelled large 

 cylindrical chamber where as many as, I believe, 15 people can live 

 and maintain themselves in gaseous atmosphere at that depth and then 

 emerge to do work and swim. 



There will be doctors down there, there is a whole series of biolog- 

 ical — that is, first experiments dealing with swimmers and then ex- 

 periments outside, the nature of the activities that they will be under- 

 going while they are there. 



The Scripps Institution is also testing out equipment. I think there 

 are a great many organizations testing out equipment, both for swim- 

 mers and for work under the water using the Sea Lab 2 as a mechanism 

 for evaluating this equipment. 



Mr. Casey. Well, Mr. Chairman, I do not want to take any more 

 time and let somebody else have an opportunity now. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Casey. 



Mr. Mosher? 



Mr. Mosher. Mr. Chaimian, at this time I do not think I have any 

 significant questions. It seems to me that Dr. Hornig has made his 

 position crystal clear concerning the legislation before us and I as- 

 sume he speaks for the President in this matter. 



Is that right. Are these the Presidential recommendations, Dr. 

 Hornig? 



Dr. Hornig. They are the recommendation of the administration. 



Mr. Mosher. That is all, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Kogers ? 



Mr. Roger. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Doctor, your testimony has been helpful and I do think we have 

 made some progress. I think the ICO has done a good job. I think 

 your office has. But I have a feeling that we still have not approached 

 oceanoo-raphy with the urgency which so many of us in Congress are 

 feelinff and have felt for the last numbpr of years, particularly since 

 this committee passed the bill, as you reported your predecessor had 

 supported. 



I am concerned about the whole approach and this feeling that we 

 must adhere to the present setup rather than being, I think, more 



