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There is another one I did not recognize, the Institute for Defense 

 Analysis. 



In those cases you stated they were chosen because of their scientific 

 excellence rather than because of the place they presently happened 

 to be employed. 



Now, to bring a long question down to a short one : Have you, either 

 through that Panel or through any plans that you may have in mind, 

 considered the matter of determining what industry is, in fact, pres- 

 ently doing and what more might be done to assist ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. I have personally talked to members of industry; 1 

 liave talked with members of the NSIA, and others ; and on Septem- 

 l)er 18 my Panel will listen to a presentation by the NSIA and discuss 

 the problem of industry's role in the national oceanographic effort 

 with them. 



So we are very conscious of this question. 



Mr. Drewry. When was this — it will be September 18? 



Dr. HoRNiG. September 18 ; yes. 



Mr. Drewrt. It has not been done yet. 



Dr. HoRNiG. I have personally talked to the members, but the 

 presentation to the Panel has not yet been given. 



Mr. Drewry. So there has been no procedural input into program 

 planning ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. I must make this clear again— this Panel is not a pro- 

 gram planning group, but rather a group to lay the foundation for 

 the national program. 



It is an advisory committee ; it has no jurisdiction. 



Mr. Drewry. They make recommendations. 



Dr. HoRNiG. They make recommendations. 



Mr. Drewry. In discussing Mr. Rivers' bill you called attention to 

 the statement you made over in Annapolis last summer about the 

 inadequacy of the mapping of the Continental Shelf. 



Then you went on to point out further, though, that you felt that 

 it would be premature to do anything about a bill such as that at this 

 time because of legal problems related to resource recovery which have 

 Tiot yet been clarified. 



What are you doing to clarify the legal problems ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. I want to make clear that I am most anxious that we 

 proceed with the Continental Shelf program and we are. 



Mr. Drewry. The last paragraph on page 14. 



Dr. HoRNiG. One must distinguish, I believe, between mapping pro- 

 grams on the Continental Shelf and more general programs of opera- 

 tion on the shelf. I did question whether it was proper to set up a 

 program in detail as proposed in the bill until some of the legal ques- 

 tions had been clarified. 



Mr. Drewry. Is it really premature to begin that which is related 

 to these things now ? Recapture of the resources perhaps is involved 

 with legal problems but should they not be studied right now in paral- 

 lel with the efforts to map the bottom topography ? 



Dr. HoRNiG. Let me make two points. 



One is that, of course, we are going ahead with the survey of the 

 Continental Shelf. 



I think the legal questions are important. I would simply say that 

 I am not really competent to comment on them. 



