344 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



Mr. Caldwell. Joseph Caldwell, I am Chief Technical Adviser of 

 the Research Center of the Corps of Engineers. I passed the mem- 

 orandum up to the counsel to clarify what was going on, I was not 

 particularly asking to appear before the committee; I have been 

 before the committee ; I have been before the committee before and I 

 do not mind coming up today. I wanted to clarify there is a coordi- 

 nation of agencies informally in the Great Lakes that the U.S. Lake 

 Survey District has the responsibility for charting the Great Lakes, 

 keeping up with the hydrology of the Great Lakes and making certain 

 investigations into the limnology I think they would call it rather than 

 the oceanography of the Great Lakes — that the Weather Bureau, the 

 Coast Guard, I think I mentioned the Public Health Service also have 

 a great interest in what is going on and there is quite a lot of coopera- 

 tion and coordination between these gentlemen. 



They have established a Great Lakes data center at Detroit, the 

 Corps of Engineers operates the data center and everybody else pours 

 in what data they have to the center. 



In addition to that they have this coordinating agency or group 

 which meets periodically to try to coordinate their efforts in the Great 

 Lakes. 



It is not a formal coordinating committee but one that has grown 

 up to meet the need of keeping up with what each is doing. 



On top of that we are cooperating with — I may get the name of this 

 organization wrong, but it is the National Maritime and Engineers 

 and Shipbuilders Association. 



They are trying to — they want to build bigger tankers in the Great 

 Lakes and the Coast Guard has to approve the bigger tankers, so they 

 need additional data on which to base these things and the Corps of 

 Engineers is obtaining wave data and the Weather Bureau is obtaining 

 wave data and we are trying to work this out as to whether the Coast 

 Guard will allow the larger tankers and other vessels to operate in 

 the Great Lakes. 



I thought I would like to add that if that is helpful. 



Mr. Ashley. That is helpful, Mr. Caldwell, that is of considerable 

 value in clarifying the questions I have with respect to what is going 

 on in the Great Lakes. 



Mr. Caldwell. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon". Thank you very much, I appreciate your being here. 



We may send for you and give you a chance to appear again. 



The committee will stand in recess until tomorrow morning at 10, 

 and we will resume these hearings with regard to the legislation pend- 

 ing before this committee. 



W will meet at 10 a.m. 



The conmiittee stands adjourned. 



(Whereupon, at 12 :20 p.m., the hearing was recessed to reconvene 

 at 10 a.m., Thursday, August 12, 1965.) 



