NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 355 



Mr. MosHER. Doctor, you testified in favor of the Rogers bill. As 

 1 remember Mr. Kogers' bill, it provides for a commission and inves- 

 tigation and study and recommendations. 



As you conceive of the work of that commission, how would it differ 

 from and go beyond the work of this committee? How would you 

 distinguish the type of mission that you would assign to that com- 

 mission and the mission that very obviously this committee feels that 

 it has? 



Dr. Clark. That is a question I must admit I had not thought 

 about. I think one difference is a matter of how much individual 

 time the commission members could devote to amassing data and 

 analytical work. 



Mr. MosHER. I would expect you to say that perhaps the commis- 

 sion could be useful to this committee because it would have more spe- 

 cialized skills represented on it and more time, but its mission would 

 merely augment and be supplementary to the work of this committee. 



Dr. Clark. Precisely, and it would be thought of as an arm of this 

 committee, or very nearly. 



Mr. MosHER. I would have expected Chairman Lennon to ask you 

 what your objection is to the bill that he introduced. 



Mr. Lennon. Will the gentleman yield to me? 



Mr. MosHER. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. I was taking too much time, but I will come back to it. 



Mr. MosHER. I will defer to the chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. You go ahead and finish, and I will come back. 



Mr. MosHER. I will just ask him then, that is the only question I 

 had in mind. What are your objections to the Lennon bill ? 



Dr. Clark. I have no strong objection to any bills other than this 

 monolithic agency-type of bill. More especially, I favor a bill to 

 undertake the broad gage study and analysis. 



Mr. Lennon. ISTow, will the gentleman yield to me at that point ? 



Mr. MosHER. Yes; but I wanted to suggest that on the first page 

 of his prepared testimony, you say you appear in opposition to Mr. 

 Lennon's bill. I just wondered what the opposition is? I do yield, 

 sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Doctor, do you know the chronological historj^ of the 

 hearings of this committee and the legislation it has reported out re- 

 lating to oceanography? 



Dr. Clark. Not in detail. 



Mr. Lennon. And the inability, even after we reached a consensus, 

 with all of the agencies of the Federal Government, after a pocket: 

 veto of the bill, then the Senate did not act. 



Now the bills that the gentleman just referred to, 2218, 3310. and 

 3352, by members of the committee. Those bills are identical. Tliey 

 do have the support of every agency of the Federal Government from 

 the Executive Office of the President on down. 



Now, having unqualifiedly endorsed the bill, 9064, and its companion 

 bills introduced by Mr. Reinecke. Mr. Hanna, and Mr, Downing — I 

 Imow you are familiar with these^ — I wonder if it would not be pos- 

 sible to amend section 4 of the bill 2218, referred to sometimes as the 

 "bill I introduced," and make it conform with the provisions of the 

 Rogere bill, 9064, which would, in fact, create a commission and Avould 

 direct — not authorize — the President to appoint a committee, as my 



