454 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



In this connection, when the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency 

 was created, authority to provide access to restricted data similar to 

 that in the National Aeronautics and Space Administration Act and 

 in the bills mentioned above was considered. The Congress rejected 

 that proposal and substituted provisions under which employees of 

 the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency may be cleared for access 

 to restricted data only by the Commission. 



The suggestion in our comments on these bills is, therefore, consist- 

 fcnt with tlie most recent action of Congress with respect to providing 

 access to restricted data by agencies Ocher than tlie Atomic Energy 

 Commission. 



We feel it should be applied in this case if you pass any of the bills 

 wdiich have this provision in them. 



Mr. Chairman, that concludes my presentation. 



Mr. Reinecke. Dr. Kavanagh, your last point is something which 

 has not been mentioned here before, and certainly is something which 

 sliould not be overlooked. This also gives some merit to the idea of a 

 study commission to take a look at this very carefully before we pass 

 any particular legislation. 



I think you understand the problem now and the reason for the 

 anxiety on the Hill over this entire program. It is simply that we 

 feel the executive branch is not working together or is working against 

 each other and has created a can of worms out of the oceanographic 

 program. Perhaps the motion is there, but we do not see it. This is 

 the reason we are anxious and interested to get something moving. I 

 appreciate your remarks and I shall read your prepared statement 

 carefully. 



Mr. Casey. Doctor, I appreciate your appearance here today, and I 

 think the matter of security which you mentioned deserves serious 

 consideration by the committee. The observations you made concern- 

 ing the last expression of Congress indicates the difficulties involved 

 in opening your data to everyone without a close security check. 



I also appreciate the caution with which you oppose any ultimate 

 action on this legislation. I appreciate that because I think your 

 Commission has probably not received enough direction and super- 

 vision in your field. 



I am also inclined to agree with you that possibly we shall have to 

 define better, if we do create such a separate agency, just what fields 

 it would concentrate in. We have now various agencies. For in- 

 stance, a part of the national defense is to have sufficient food. We 

 have an Agricultural Department concerned with that. That is not 

 a close analogy, but I think it is a fair one. You cannot just say food 

 is essential to maintaining our Army and the Department of Defense 

 should supervise it, but they do assign to the Agriculture Department 

 certain problems they have related to defense. 



The gentleman who preceded you at the stand served during the war 

 in the capacity of obtaining food from the ocean where our troops 

 were stationed. That is a part of our defense aspect. 



Dr. Kavanagh. I think your observation is correct, Mr. Chairman. 

 In fact, even if an agency were set up with rather sweeping powers in 

 this field, we would find we would have to leave some work in these 

 other agencies. 



