460 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 



sources and manage all possible oceanographic services and investiga- 

 tions before we have assessed the requirements for the services and the 

 economic availability of the newly found resources. 



I have directed my statement toward the basic issue being considered 

 by the committee. However, I should also like, for a moment, to com- 

 ment on H.R. 5175, which was also introduced by the chairman. 



It would direct the Coast Guard to conduct a study of the legal prob- 

 lems arising from the management and use of the ocean's natural re- 

 sources. We certainly have no objection to tliis bill. However, I sug- 

 gest that the committee, by amendment, authorize the conduct of this 

 study by the Department of the Interior. The Department of the Inte- 

 rior, concerned as it is with both fish and mineral resources, could cer- 

 tainly give the best direction to such a study. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Casey. Thank you, Admiral. 



On page 3 you refer to the chairman's fimd established by contribu- 

 tions of member agencies of the ICO ? 



Admiral Shields. That is right. 



Mr. Casey. To be used to finance the staff. 



Admiral Shields. There is a connotation of possible agency loyalty. 

 We expect the chance of criticism would be removed by the use of a 

 chairman's fmid. 



Mr. Casey. The various agencies who are members of this commit- 

 tee are not bound by the recommendations of the ICO, are they ? 



Admiral Shields. No, sir. It is a central point for ideas and coordi- 

 nation, to be sure there is no duplication and that each agency knows 

 what the other agency is doing. 



Mr. Casey. The report they put out is more or less a report of past 

 performances and the one they put out here does not say too much 

 about what they propose to do in the future. That is my recollection. 



As far as past performance is concerned it is pretty general and not 

 specific. 



As far as being a good sales pitch to the Congress I do not think 

 it is good enough in that respect because it does not say what needs 

 to be done next year. It should contain more of a sales pitch to Con- 

 gress. In other words, taking the National Aeronautics and Space Ad- 

 ministration report, this lists chronologically all tliey have done and 

 what they expect to do in the future, the funding, and everything from 

 the various missiles which have been fired, flights made, up to the sales 

 pitch. I wonder if the agency has thought about dressing this up 

 somewhat more rather than making such a cold report. 



Admiral Shields. May I refer that to Admiral Childress ? He has 

 had more recent contacts with the committee than I have. 



Admiral Childress. The ICO reports to the Federal council and 

 shows the programs that the various agencies plan to carry out in the 

 areas of oceanography. 



The Federal council criticizes these programs and gives evidence 

 to those programs which they feel should be carried out and areas 

 where greater work should be done. 



However, each agency which has responsibility in these respective 

 areas, then try to get this in their program. As a result of the budget- 

 ary process sometimes it is included and sometimes it is not included. 



The ICO criticizes our plans generally. We have working groups 



