NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM LEGISLATION 481 



Mr. Seidman. I think the staff on the budget side of the Budget Bu- 

 reau is aware of this ; I personally am not. 



Mr. Rogers. I understand you might not be. 



Who on your staff deals with oceanography ? 



Mr. Seidman. In my immediate staff it is Dr. Berg; then on the 

 budget side, I come from that part of the Budget Bureau that deals 

 with management and organization within the Government, each of 

 the divisions concerned with specific programs does deal with oceano- 

 graphy 



Mr. Rogers. Who does it? 



Mr. Seidman. Each of the budget divisions. For example, the 

 examiner who deals with the Environmental Science Services Admin- 

 istration would be concerned with that part of it. 



We have faced the problem in the Budget Bureau, of coordinating 

 scientific programs, that cut across agency lines. We have created 

 what we call a coordinating examiner who has the function of pulling 

 together all of the oceanographic programs, and I think the coordi- 

 natmg examiner is Mr. Dillon who is in the Military Division. 



Mr. Rogers. Mr. Dillon ? 



Mr. Seidman. Mr. Dillon. 



Mr. Rogers. So he is the top man more or less ? 



Mr. Seidman. On the budgetary side. 



Mr. Rogers. On the budgetary side; in other words, to handle the 

 amomits of money to be approved ? 



Mr. Seidman. That is right; he is also the Bureau of Budget's ob- 

 server on the ICO. 



Mr. Rogers. Now, is he an oceanographer ? 



Mr. Seidman. No. 



Mr. Rogers. Does he have any background in science ? 



Mr. Seidman. I really could not respond to your question, Mr. 

 Rogers. I would be glad to get the biographical data for you. 



Mr. Rogers. I think this might be interesting for the committee if 

 you could let us have the background of those men who deal with the 

 oceanographic program in the Bureau of the Budget. 



(The information follows :) 



BlOGKAPHICAL DATA ON BXJEEATJ OF THE BUDGET StAFF 



Enoch Leroy Dillon, budget examiner, Military Division. Attended University 

 of the Pacific and received B.S. degree in business administration in 1948. In 

 1952, obtained masters degree in economics from Catholic University, and in 

 1953 engaged in additonal graduate work in economics at American University. 

 For the periods 1944 to 1946 and 1951 to 1952, served as a U.S. Army Infantry 

 officer in the United States, the Philippines, Japan and Korea. Organization and 

 methods examiner with the Department of the Treasury from 1948 to 1951 and 

 from 1952 to 1955. Joined the Military Division of the Bureau of the Budget in 

 1955, and since 1961 has been an examiner in naval research, development, test, 

 evaluation, and procurement. In 1961, designated as Bureau coordinator for 

 Federal oceanography programs. 



Clifford L. Berg, management analyst. Office of Management and Organization. 

 B.A. in political science from University of Minnesota in 1942, followed by World 

 War II experience in military personnel assignments. Master of public admin- 

 istration from Harvard in 19.51, and Ph. D. in government and economics from 

 Harvard in 1955. Civilian personnel assignment in Veterans' Administration 

 and Air Force from 1946 to 1956, excluding academic leave from 1950 to 1952. 

 Joined Bureau of the Budget as a budget examiner on hospital programs in 1956 

 and in present assignment of responsibility for science and education organiza- 



