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likewise be accomplished during the life of the Commission or assigned 

 to designated agencies thereafter. Once tlie survey was completed and 

 the tasks, funding and organization established to accomplish the full 

 program, the Commission should be terminated. This, 1 believe, will 

 provide the wisest and best program with minimum disturbance of 

 vital projects now in progress. 



Tliere are many who may feel tliat we must do something right now 

 and not spend more time in studies. One cannot dispute such urgency 

 but the fact that our oceanographic program has made great progress 

 during the 9-year period of the oceanographic debates, the fact that 

 industi-y would rather be told 'Svhere to go" rather than just "let's 

 go," and the fact that the overall problem has really been expanded 

 from just "oceanography" to the all-inclusive, true problem of "ocean- 

 ography and ocean engineering" all made it necessary not only to move 

 quickly, but, more importantly, to move wisely and well. This, I be- 

 lieve, can be done through Congressman Rogers' bill, H.R. 9064. 



I appreciate the opportunity to make this statement, sir. 



]Mr. Rogers. Thank you very much, Professor Stephan. 



Mr. Dow? 



Mr. Dow. Mr. Stephan, I do not know if you are familiar with H.R. 

 2218, which is another bill that has been 



Mr. Stephan. Yes, sir ; I have it here. 



Mr. Dow (continuing). That has been offered here. 



Would you care to explain the thinking in your mind for why you 

 prefer the bill offered by Representative Rogers to the bill, H.R. 2218 ? 

 And I do not say that because I have any prejudice about either bill, 

 but I would be glad to have your opinion, sir. 



Mr. Stephan. For one thing, sir, I feel that H.R. 2218 pertain pri- 

 marily to the science of oceanography and does not really extend far 

 enough into the ocean engineering problems. That is one tiling, sir. 



This being primarily a policy bill, as I read it right quickly, sir, 

 without haying the chance to review it again, I did not feel it gave the 

 means for implementation that I considered were part of Congress- 

 man Rogers' bill. 



Mr. Dow. Thank you, Mr. Stephan, for a very thoughtful presenta- 

 tion. 



Mr. Stephan. Thank you, sir. 



Mr. Rogers. Mr.Pelly? 



Mr. Pelly. Professor Stephan, you recommend yourself very higlily 

 to me when you indicate that you have been in touch and associated 

 with Dr. Wakelin. We of this committee certainly learned to admire 

 him and to respect him, and you certainly do yourself great credit with 

 me when you indicate your association with him ; and I might add, too, 

 that in your support of our colleague, Mr. Rogers, you certainly up- 

 grade yourself in our opinion, because we certainly have enjoyed our 

 association with Mr. Rogers and we are going to watch the growth of 

 your great institution down there. 



There has been a real need, I think, for an increase in the number of 

 institutions of learning in connection with oceanography. On the 

 west coast we only have two of them that I know of that are really out- 

 standing. I have always heard from our people there was a need for 

 more. 



I am very glad you are here today. I listened to your testimony with 

 great interest. It is obvious that you have given a lot of thought to this 



