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future uses of the ocean would be very minimal, from a practical 

 standpoint, we are not arguing about a lot. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Commissioner, I want to thank you, and I just want 

 to observe you play a bad hand rather well. 



The Chair recognizes Mr. Tiernan. 



Mr. Tiernan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



With regard to your first answer to Mr. McCloskey's questions, you 

 indicated the Commission had not taken any position, and you want 

 to supply that for the record. 



Mr, Ramey. Yes. We have supported the language in the CEQ 

 report. 



Mr. Tiernan. Mr. McCloskey quoted Mr, Train's statement before 

 this committee yesterday, and that report was filed in October. 



I assume you have had chance to review the language in that re- 

 port, and also the administration's bill, and it seems you are in con- 

 tradiction to the Administrator who testified here with regard to the 

 objectives. 



Mr. Ramey. I would not make it quite that degree of disagreement. 



Mr. Tiernan. Well, what degree would you make it ? 



Mr. Ramey. The bill of course does not contemplate, it does not 

 have authority for 



Mr. Tiernan. But the Administrator saw no other reason for that 

 authority, except to liquefy radioactive materials, is that correct ? 



Mr. Ramey. I am not sure that that was it. 



Mr. Tiernan. You question the quote of Mr. Train's statement? 



Mr. Ramey. I would take it that he was saying under this authority 

 he would expect that it be prohibited. 



Mr. Tiernan. And you do not agree with that ? 



Mr. Ramey. I have stated that I would like to review this with my 

 fellow commissioners. 



Mr. Tiernan. You mean since October, and since the bill was in- 

 troduced in February, that the Commission has not considered this 

 at all? 



Mr. Ramey. No. I say we have not considered it since we saw Mr. 

 Train's statement. 



Mr. Tiernan. When did you see Mr. Train's statement ? 



Mr. Ramey. This morning. 



Mr. Tiernan. You saw the bill the administration placed before 

 the committee ? 



Mr. Ramey. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Tiernan. And in view of that, you think that Mr. Train's state- 

 ment is of further restriction than the language in the bill ? 



Mr. Ramey. It is not a restriction in the language of the bill. It 

 indicated 



Mr. Tiernan. You think his statement indicates a further restric- 

 tion in the application of the language of the bill ? 



Mr. Ramey. It indicated how he would expect the bill to be admin- 

 istered, and it is a further restriction on what is stated in the report 

 of the CEQ, of which he was chairman. 



Mr. Tiernan. And if we were to act on his recommendation, you say 

 the Commission has not taken a jDOsition yet ? 



Mr. Ramey. No, sir. 



