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Dr. Ketchum. I am afraid that I can't give you a time limit on 

 this. There are engineering problems that have to be solved for the 

 reuse of some of these materials. There is the natural lethargy of 

 spending money to get rid of something that you don't really want. 



I would find it very difficult to say how quickly this could be done. 

 I think if Congress pushes the country a little it will get done more 

 quickly than if we relax and say maybe it will happen some day. 



Mr. Everett. Mr. Pelly discussed with you a few moments ago the 

 funding of the legislation and a specific authorization for funding. 



The Rogers bill I think indicated a $1 million a year authorization 

 for the purpose of this act for each year in the future. 



Do you think $1 million is sufficient to do the job that would be 

 required to implement this legislation ? Or should it be larger? 



Dr. Ketchum. I think it will have to be larger in the long run. 

 There are just so many problems in the marine environment that are 

 not now being adequately studied that I think this would be merely a 

 start on the problem. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Everett, would you yield at this point? 



Doctor, Mr. Everett is touching on a question which has bothered 

 me rather considerably. That is, I assume that a good research program 

 authorized by law has to have certain parameters and directions so 

 as to achieve the desired legislative goal. The requirement in the Rogers 

 bill of which Mr. Pelly and Mr. Keith and I are cosponsors does not 

 include specific boundaries and parameters. 



I have been groping for what boundaries and parameters the re- 

 search program should have. 



Would you be able to give us some assistance in laying out and in 

 outlining what should be the boundaries and the directions and the 

 goals of a research program of that sort together with the amount 

 which should be expended to achieve that kind of goal ? 



Dr. Ketchum. To do that just quickly here would be a difficult thing 

 because I am sure that if I attempted to do it I would leave out many 

 of the things which would be important. 



Mr. Dingell. Doctor, you mentioned this. 



Your guidance on an ojff-the-cuff basis at this time would be highly 

 desirable and helpful. But your thought and assistance when you have 

 had more opportunity to reflect and come up with a more complete 

 judgment, perhaps after consulting with some of your colleagues up at 

 Woods Hole would be also eminently useful. 



In fact, tha,t is really what I am asking for. 



Dr. Ketchum. Very well. May I say that I have prepared a proposal 

 to the National Science Foundation — it is still in a preliminary form — 

 which outlines a very small part of the coastal ecosystem study with 

 orientation toward the miderstanding of man's impact upon this 

 environment. 



I would be glad to send the part of that proposal which describes the 

 proposed research program if this would be helpful. 



Mr. DiNGELL. It would be immensely helpful. Could you fashion it 

 in legislative terms for guidance which will be necessary for this 

 research program? 



Dr. Ketchum. I will try to do so. I think I might need some 

 assistance in this regard. 



