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Mr. DiNGELL. Would it be helpful to you if you have specific 

 directions in the statute from EPA to inform the Coast Guard ? 



Mr. Beggs. Again, I think that would be appropriate. 



Mr. DiNGELL. That would make your job of enforcement rather 

 easier ? 



Mr. Beggs. Yes, it would. Although, again, I think that the moti- 

 vation here will be in the direction of both parties keeping each other 

 informed. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Do you want something said about having the permit 

 displayed at some appropriate place on the vessel carrying cargo ? 



Mr. Beggs. Perhaps I sliould have Admiral Hammond comment on 

 that, since he is more familiar with the operational details. 



Admiral HAM^kiONO. Mr. Chairman, I think it would be difficult 

 to have a permit displayed on a vessel so that it could be seen and 

 identified closely enough to be of real value. 



Mr. DiNGELL. I am not thinking of your standing off a thousand 

 yards and reading the permit on the bridge, but I am thinking it 

 should be readily available for inspection. 



Admiral HAMMo:?>rD. It should be available so that the barge and 

 tug operators could show it to the Coast Guard or other law 

 enforcement agency upon demand. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Does the bill, in your opinion, definitely require 

 amendments to afford that direction to permit holders ? 



Admiral Hammond. I would say that this again would be some- 

 tliing that we could certainly work out very easily with EPA. It would 

 be included in their regulations implementing the legislation. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Would you take a look at this particular matter that 

 we are discussing at this time and when you return give us your views 

 as to whether or not you need statutory authority with regard to the 

 display of permits, et cetera ? 



Mr. Beggs. Yes, sir ; we certainly will. 



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The display of the permit can be required by regulation, and we do not 

 recommend that a statutory requirement for its display be included in the Bill. 



Mr. Everett. Mr. Secretary, I notice that you mentioned monitor- 

 ing several times in your statement. Do you find anything in the bill 

 that would require a monitoring program to be carried out ? 



Mr. Beggs. No, not specifically. However, to accomplish the intent 

 of the bill would require monitoring and the establishment of base- 

 line data on the dumping grounds and the waters in general. The 

 Coast Guard is doing a certain amount of this already. In pursuit of 

 the responsibility they would have under this bill for surveillance 

 they will have to develop, or assist in developing, probably with 

 NOAA and EPA, a satisfactory baseline and continuous monitoring 

 activity to note any adverse changes that were developing. 



Mr. Everett. I get the impression from reading your statement 

 that the Coast Guard is ready and willing and would be deliglited to 

 accept this responsibility. I was wondering if you were in a position 

 to suggest an amendment to this effect that we put the monitoring 

 responsibility on the Coast Guard. 



Mr. Beggs. I would suggest that this requires some discussion with 

 NOAA, which has a broad responsibility in this area of developing 



