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baseline data on contiguous waters. The division of responsibility 

 between NOAA and the Coast Guard, I think, is something that 

 will have to be carefully worked out. I do not think that we are pre- 

 pared to offer an amendment at this time which would delegate this 

 Responsibility to the Coast Guard. 



There is a developing relationship, I should say, between the Coast 

 Guard and NOAA as to what assistance NOAA requires from the 

 Coast Guard. Clearly, the NOAA organization will have to rely to 

 a large extent on the data gathering facilities of the Coast Guard, 

 both data gathering in the harbor areas and in the contiguous waters. 

 So, here again I think we would have to consult with NOAA to find 

 out what an appropriate division of responsibilities would be there. 



Mr. EvERioTT. Under section 8(b) of the bill, pages 12 and 13, the 

 administrator has the authirty to delegate responsibility to other Fed- 

 eral agencies. I note you refer in your statement to the issuance of 

 permits. Is there any contemplation that EPx4. will transfer this 

 responsibility or delegate this responsibility to the Coast Guard ? 



Mr. Beggs. No. As a matter of fact, I think EPA has in mind 

 developing the capability to issue the permits directly themselves. 

 What I had reference to was the existing organization and facilities 

 of the Coast Guard and the captiains of the port, the marine inspec- 

 tion offices, and so forth, which are in place and are available to EPA 

 to assist them in judging the background and details of any request 

 for a permit. I am sure that EPA will take advantage of that. 



Mr. Everett. Those are all the questions I have. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Pelly? 



Mr. Pelly. I want to apologize to you both for being unavoidably 

 detained. 



I have had a chance, Mr. Secretary, to look through your statement. 

 I am curious as to what is involved m monitoring. Have you the 

 present equipment to take on such a responsibilitiy ? 



Mr. Beggs. To a large extent; yes, sir. Although we will need some 

 augmentation, I am sure, as the program develops. But in the Coast 

 Guard's program of gathering oceanographic data in pursuit of their 

 normal mission, they can indeed gather data that will be needed to 

 establish the baseline as well as continue to gather further data as the 

 dumping grounds are observed from time to time, after each dump. 



So I think that the facilities and capabilities exist now, although I 

 would expect that as time goes on there will be need of some augmenta- 

 tion, depending on how large a program we get into. I suspect it will 

 eventually get quite large. 



Mr. Pelly. You have quite a worldwide responsibility. I must say 

 that I would hope that you would get additional up-to-date equipment. 

 I think the authorization bill here moves in that direction. But you 

 can't monitor from the air, can you ? 



Mr. Beggs. Only to a modest extent. My understanding of the 

 technology is that there is some capability, although modest, to do 

 a certain amount of monitoring from the air. But very basically the 

 information you need has to be taken through sampling and soundings 

 by ships. 



Mr. Pelly. I would be hopeful that this monitoring responsibility 

 would not interfere with your duty to patrol our waters, because we 



