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many cases administrative surveillance, that is, review of log books 

 and navigation records, and so forth, would be sufficient to determine 

 whether the dumping had taken place in the proper spot and under 

 proper conditions. 



So I do not believe that we are in a position where we will be unduly 

 taxed at this time, but w^e certainly will furnish for the record the 

 data you ask for. 



(The information follows:) 



We assume from 3,000 to 6,000 permits will be issued during the first year. 

 Assuming we will conduct surveillance of all the toxic loads, but only a low 

 percentage of all other loads, we believe this will require about 600 aircraft 

 hours per year at a cost of $500 per hour and 350 ship days per year at a cost 

 of about $3,500 per day. This comes to a total of approximately $1,350,000 per 

 year for enforcement operations. 



Mr. Heyward. May I ask whether or not, in connection with the 

 inspection program of the Coast Guard, is there a possibility under 

 the inspection program to take a look at the license of the vessel to 

 actually carry out these dumps, such as the dump barges that operate 

 out of "iSTew York, Philadelphia, and other ports ? 



Mr. Beggs. Admiral Hammond, do you wish to comment on that ? 



Admiral Hammoistd. I am not sure I understand your question 

 exactly. 



Do you mean could we determine if the barge or dump vessel is 

 actually licensed for this business ? 



Mr. iffETWARD. Yes. 



Admiral Hammond. Certainly this is true concerning many barges 

 and vessels. I am sure, however, that some small contractors would be 

 engaging in dumping operations using vessels not so licensed. 



Mr. Heyward. I was wondering how far the present inspection 

 program might be extended, or whether under the present inspection 

 pi'ogram there might be a way to regulate the particular vessels that 

 AYOuld be utilized in carrying out the dumping. 



Perhaps if you could inquire and have a comment further for the 

 committee. 



Admiral Hammond. Fine. 



(The information follows :) 



The existing marine inspection program can be partially utilized to police 

 the permit requirements, however, it is anticipated that a complete policing 

 program would require the cooperative efforts of the OflBcer in Charge, Marine 

 Inspection at the Captain of the Port of a given port. Another way to reg"ulate 

 particular vessels, such as dump barges, et cetera, would be to place a restric- 

 tion on their Certificate of Inspection that would preclude operations without a 

 permit. 



Mr. Heyward. One final question. I am not sure that you are able 

 to answer it, but I will take a chance. 



In 6(e), the bill talks about forfeiture of vessels, and it Says, "A 

 vessel, except a public vessel ... or other public property of a similar 

 nature. ..." 



Do you have any idea of what the "other public property of a simi- 

 lar nature," which would have an in rem action against it, other than 

 a vessel ? 



Admiral Hammond. The term "other public property of a similar 

 nature" would, under the general definition, refer to federal, state, 



