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As I say, we are going to have to closely observe how far those re- 

 sources stretch. If they do not stretch far enough, we will have to come 

 back for more. 



]\Ir. DiNGELL. Just to be perfectly fair and I am not critical with 

 you, because I understand your problems with the Bureau of the 

 Budget, but jou don't want me to walk away from here with the im- 

 pression that the Coast Guard has resources to do really an adequate 

 job of superintending this ocean dumping problem, any more than 

 theA'^ have full capability to superintend any of the responsibilities 

 that the Administration has given them by law and regulation; do 



you ? 



Mr. Beggs. Again, I do not have right now an assessment of just 

 how much this is going to entail in additional workload for the Coast 

 Guard. 



It may well be that when we size up e^^erything required by the act, 

 we will require more funds. But I don't think I can say that at the 

 present time. 



Mr. Dus^GELL. Do a^ou have any idea of the number of dumping 

 IDermits which will be issued under this, or the number of dumpings 

 which take place? It is on the order of hundreds of thousands of tons. 



]Mr. Beggs. I don't have any idea of the. number of specific dump- 

 ing pemiits that are involved, or, the number of surveillance missions 

 that the Coast Guard will have to carry out. 



Mr. DiisTGELL. I have less trouble about the rascals that are going 

 to be dumping perhaps outside of their assigned areas than I have 

 al^out the rascals that will be dumping without permits at all, or 

 dumping substances for which they have no permit. 



I am curious how many boardings are you going to be able to carry 

 out to ascertain whether these people are actually dumping what ihej 

 purport to dump. 



yir. Beggs. Generally speaking, and I will ask the admiral to com- 

 ]nent on this, our experience has been that if a statute requires that 

 sometliing be done in accordance with certain rules and re^ilations, 

 the maritiine industry and the folks who are associated with the op- 

 eration of barges along the coast will comply. I think the more serious 

 proltlem will be those who dump without permit. 



Mr. DiNGELL. That is right. 



Let us take another for instance. You have another problem that is 

 almost as discouraging, and that is the very obvious one of bilge pump- 

 ing. One of our major problems is people pumping bilges up and down 

 the coast. jSTobody knows who does it. Nobody knows how you survey 

 it. All of a sudden, you have oil on the beach. 



]Mr. Beggs. We think the surveillance activity there can be carried 

 out with aircraft. 



As I stated earlier, we have requested additional resources to do that. 

 I think the 1972 appropriations request contains an amount for six 

 additional aircraft for the specific purpose of surveillance in the 

 coastal contiguous zones. 



Mr. DiisTGELL. Let me add this. I am not quarreling with you. I just 

 want you to understand at this time that I am fully aware of the 

 magnitude of the problem that you are taking on. I think you are. 

 I hope you are. 



