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like to move further than we have now, but obviously, this is just one 

 of many, many problems in the national economy, and we are trying 

 to live within that framework. But your statement is correct, tha.t we 

 are fairly well limited to the existing programs, because we are in the 

 position of having certain studies and programs started at certain 

 universities, and we don't want to curtail those, in order to start new 

 ones. 



jSIr. Rogers. We are going to try to get some more money this year. 



Mr. Pollock. We would be very happy. 



INIr. EoGERS. Thank you very much. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



INIr. DiNGELL. Thank vou, Mr. Rogers. 



Mr. Everett? 



JMr. Everett. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Wakelin. several times throughout your statement, you men- 

 tioned monitoring, and I noticed the Coast Guard under the bill has 

 the res]Tonsibility of surveillance and enforcement. And I was wonder- 

 ing if thei-e has been any tliought given to extending this monitoring 

 requirement to the Coast Guard, or to NOAA, or just to whom? 



It is not clear under the bill as to who would do the monitoring. 



Mr. Wakelin. I would suggest that the word "surveillance" there 

 refers to the surveillance of surface activities and surface vessels. Our 

 point here, I think, in the NOAA capabilities, presents a fairly strong 

 case for the functions, at least at first, being done by NOAA, in the 

 monitoring operations. 



These are pretty sophisticated programs, and while I am sure tlie 

 Coast Guard has the capability, I don't think it is a broad as NOAA. 

 W^e are talking about monitoring in the physical, chemical, and bio- 

 logical areas. 



Mr. Everett. I see, sir. 



Now on page 5, Mr. Wakelin, you mention that you have 43 research 

 vessels and 25 laboratories available. Do these numbers include tlie 

 four vessels that were tied up last year by the BCF and also the four 

 research laboratories that were either closed or phased down con- 

 siderablv in their activities ? 



]Mr. W.'KELTis'. Well, let me answer fii'st the question about the 

 vessels, and then I think our supporting people can answer about the 

 laboratories. 



Tlieie a^T 43 vessels in active service. 



Now with respect to the laboratories, I would like to call on Howard 

 Eckles. if Imay. 



Mr. Everett. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Pollock. I believe the answer to 3^our question is that all of the 

 vessels that are listed here are the number of operational vessels and 

 we would be hap]iy to provide for the committee, if they would like, 

 a list of those vessels and indeed, a list of the laboratories and facilities 

 that we have which are capable of working in the general area of 

 dumping as distinct from other aspects of our responsibility. 



]\lr. Everett. If you would, provide for the record a list of those 

 research services, as well as laboratories, in total, and indicate those 

 Avhicli are not operational at this time. 



