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General Groves. We think, sir, all things considered, it probably is. 



Mr. EoGERS. Do you have to have any approval? Do you file any 

 impact statements ? 



General Groves, Yes, sir, we do, under certain conditions. 



J\ir. EoGEEs. To do your projects? 



General Groves. Oh. yes. 



Mr. EoGERS. So that Environmental Council and EPA would com- 

 ment on it? 



General Gro\^s. Yes, sir. 



j\Ir. Rogers. And you would take their comments into consideration 

 before you issued yourself a permit? 



General Groves. We would have to, yes, sir. 



]\Ir. Rogers. But you wouldn't have to necessarily abide by what 

 they suggest. The final authoritj^ to issue it is yourself, I believe. Is 

 that correct? 



General Groves. Yes, sir, our understanding of the section 102(c) 

 of the Environmental Policy Act is that it provides us with the infor- 

 mation, those of us who have to make the decision, the information 

 we need in order to reach a good and valid decision. 



Mr. Rogers. And you are going to have, I believe it is estimated, 

 between 40,000 and 100,000 permits ? 



General Groves. That is oui' present estimate, yes, sir. 



Mr. Rogers. What is going to be the time limit ? How are you going 

 to handle it? Have you got sufficient manpower? 



General Groves. We are talking, sir, now, in this matter about the 

 Refuse Act, the section 13 permits. 



Mr. Rogers. Yes. 



General Groves. This is going to require a considerable effort, of 

 an administrative nature, of course. 



Mr. Rogers. Yes. 



General Groves. The appropriation request this year, the budget 

 request this year, provides the necessary funding for it. As a matter 

 of fact, we have some 1971 funds for it. 



Mr. Rogers. How much? 



General Groves. $1 million in 1971, sir. $4 million in 1972. 



Mr. Rogers. How many people will this provide? 



Genei'al Groves. We have asked for 200 spaces. However, when 

 you consider other losses, it comes out about even. There will be 

 about 200 spaces earmarked for this. 



Mr. Rogers. But you say you have lost other personnel, so it 

 would even up? 



General Groves. Our total strength doesn't change, particularly, 

 sir. 



jNIr. Rogers. So you are really not getting any increase in man- 

 power, as I understand it. 



General Groves. No, sir, but we are in one way of looking at it, 

 because we are getting the spaces required to do this job, which we 

 otherwise would have lost. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Rogers, would you yield ? Where are these other 

 spaces coming from, and what were the functions of the personnel 

 who are being removed from the corps' roster engaged in at the 

 time of their departure from service? 



