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Mr. Malone. I think that Mr. Ratiner has a great deal of exper- 

 tise in certain areas involved in the Law of the Sea. He is one 

 adviser among a great many. He has no official position at the 

 Department of State. He is not an employee of the Department of 

 State and he is in no different position than a number of other 

 experts and advisers that we have. 



Chairman Zablocki. Whom did he speak for at the 10th session? 



Mr. Malone. He spoke for no one but himself. 



Chairman Zablocki. He was a private delegate there? 



Mr. Malone. Not in any official capacity, Mr. Chairman. He was 

 an adviser, as I say, to the delegation, but he spoke in no official 

 capacity as a representative of the United States. 



Chairman Zablocki. To whom did he speak? 



Mr. Malone. As in the case of many, many other advisers and 

 experts, he spoke to a great many people, both on our delegation 

 and on other delegations. 



Chairman Zablocki. And when he spoke to other delegations, 

 was he speaking for the United States? 



Mr. Malone. He had, as I have just described, no official stand- 

 ing except that of an adviser. 



Chairman Zablocki. Did he speak to delegates from other states 

 as a Mr. Ratiner, private citizen? 



Mr. Malone. He spoke to them as a person who was an adviser 

 to the U.S. delegation. He was not a member of that delegation 

 having official representation or responsibilities. 



Chairman Zablocki. That is a new one, I must say. I don't recall 

 that we have resorted to similar status for a person who is not 

 officially a member of the delegation speaking for the delegation. 

 As an adviser, who does he clear with when he gives a particular 

 position of the United States? With whom did he clear? 



Mr. Malone. He was not given any official position of the United 

 States, Mr. Chairman. He had discussions, I am sure, with other 

 delegates that were present at the session, as did many of the other 

 advisers and experts to the delegation, but not, as I have just 

 mentioned, in any official representational capacity of the United 

 States. 



Chairman Zablocki. I can't pursue this any more. I'm not get- 

 ting any more of an answer than I did on the prior questions. 



I have no further questions. 



Mr. Gilman. Mr. Chairman, I have just one or two more ques- 

 tions. 



Chairman Zablocki. The gentleman from New York. 



Mr. Gilman. Mr. Ambassador, it states in your text that the 

 Congress will be consulted as part of the policy review process. 



Have you consulted with the Congress to date in any manner as 

 part of that review process? 



Mr. Malone. Of course I have had some discussions with some of 

 the Members, Congressman Gilman. We have not yet had formal 

 discussions. We are in the process of setting up an arrangement to 

 do that right now. 



I would like Mr. Kronmiller to give you a little outline of the 

 type of process that we are setting up. 



