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cases, those people may have some biases one way or the other. But 

 obviously, as in any case when you rely upon an expert, you try to 

 factor the bias out. 



Chairman Zablocki. I have a definition for an expert, but I'd 

 better not put it in the record. [Laughter.] 



Let me just say I think it would be very helpful, Mr. Malone, if 

 you would supply for the record the list of advisers. 1 



Mr. Malone. I would be happy to do that. 



Chairman Zablocki. How long they have been advising the 

 Agency, whether it was beginning in January or in the past. 



Mr. Malone. I would be happy to do that. 



Chairman Zablocki. Please include what their salaries are, if 

 they are paid a per diem, expenses, or whatever. If they are doing 

 it gratis I would be even more interested. I am not opposed to 

 advice. I have been married for 40 years and I have all I could 

 take. [Laughter.] 



But whenever somebody volunteers gratuitous advice to me, I 

 really wonder why that advice is coming and why the person wants 

 to give it to me, so I have a jaundiced eye and attitude toward that. 



Mr. Malone. Of course, as I am sure you are aware, Mr. Chair- 

 man, the public advisory committee, in which there are a very 

 large number of members, do serve without compensation, and 

 they are considered advisers to the delegation. And, of course, we 

 have other advisers and other experts that are specifically related 

 in an individual capacity to the delegation, as well. 



So we can certainly provide you with lists of people in both of 

 those categories. 



Chairman Zablocki. I understand. There are some advisers that 

 are invited and some that volunteer. I fully understand that. 



I would like to ask at this time, for myself at least, unanimous 

 consent that the record be kept open until the end of this week so 

 that Congressman Bonker and Congressman Bingham could submit 

 questions for the purpose of the record. 2 



And again, Mr. Malone, thank you very much for appearing 

 before our committee. 



Mr. Malone. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 



Chairman Zablocki. The committee stands adjourned until 2 this 

 afternoon. 



[Whereupon, at 12:15 o'clock p.m., the committee recessed, to 

 reconvene at the call of the Chair.] 



'See appendix 10, p. 126., for list of the U.S. delegation to the 10th session of the Third U.N. Law 

 of the Sea Conference, and the accompanying experts. 



2 Questions and answers appear in appendixes 11-13, pp. 130-161. 



