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appear to warrant modes expenditures to assess their abundance and 

 value, and for engineering studies of means of mining them. ^ 



I note with great pleasure that the Senate hill, S. 2692, introduced 

 by Senator Magnuson and others, contains authorization for various 

 appropriate Government agencies to carry out the researches recom- 

 mended by our committee in the field of ocean resources, and also 

 provides for means of coordinating the work of diJfferent agencies 

 through a new office in the National Science Foundation. 



I sincerely hope that this, or similar legislation may be passed in 

 the near future. 



The Chairman. I would like the committee members to meet three 

 young men who are here. If you come up here, they might want to 

 ask a few questions. The three who went down in the bathyscaph. 

 Could you come up here ? 



This will be off the record. 



(Discussion off the record.) 



The Chairman. On the record. 



Now, Dr. Iselin of the Woods Hole Institute of Oceanography, we 

 will be glad to hear from you. 



Senator Englie. May I ask one question of Dr. Schaefer before you 

 proceed with the next witness ? 



The Chairman. Yes. Are there any questions of Dr. Schaefer ? 



Senator Engle. I just wanted to ask one question. It is a little 

 collateral to your testimony, but I observed on page 2 you were over 

 at Geneva. This fishing matter, of course, is of great concern to us 

 all. It is involved with the whole problem of oceanography. Can 

 you tell us how we are getting along at Geneva ? Are we coming out 

 all right or not ? 



Mr. Schaefer. It is a little difficult to say. The conference today 

 and tomorrow is at its critical stage. The U.S.-Canadian proposal of 

 a 6-mile territory with an additional 6-mile exclusive fishing zone at 

 which the rate would be phased out in 10 years, got a vote of 33 to 53 

 with 12 abstentions. 



Senator Engle. Does it look like we will get two- thirds? 



Mr. Schaefer. This is rather critical now. It went to the plenary 

 session yesterday and it is a matter of attracting sufficient votes to this 

 proposal by one means and another to achieve the two-thirds majority 

 and it is in something of a critical stage at the moment, as I under- 

 stand it. 



In other words, if I were a bookmaker, I would probably takes six 

 to five either way. 



Senator Engle. The chairman has a great interest in it and so have 

 all of us who live in areas adjacent to the ocean where fishing is an 

 industry of great importance. 



I am not so sure that we are so happy with even this compromise 

 which would seem to be a rather tenuous matter at the present time. 



Mr. Schaefer. There is evident a considerable tendency to give 

 some kind of a priority to the, fish harvest to the adjacent coastal 

 States in addition to this. There was an Icelandic proposal to this 

 effect which won a majority of the committee with a large number of 

 abstentions and there are several other proposals before the Congress. 



The Chairman. This is the old story of the Kussians getting their 

 way because there is a two-thirds vote and there are nations with the 



