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I would just like to stress that had we been paying enough atten- 

 tion to oceanogi-aphy in the past, tlie bathyscaph could well liave been 

 something of greater national ]3ride than it is today. 



You have already heard details concerning the urgent situation and 

 indeed the critical situation that exists and I would now like to 

 spend just a few moments discussing recommendations. 



I would like to stress that the report of our Committee shoidd be 

 looked upon as a first approximation. There are probably many rec- 

 ommendations that we have made which should be modified. 



The Chairman. And also, Dr. Brown, as I suggested in the begin- 

 ning, the legislation is only here for suggestion or modification and 

 changes. It is something to start with, and chew on, as it were, 

 sort of following in the pattern of the recommendations. 



Mr. Brown. Yes. 



When I read the proposed legislation, however, I was pleased in- 

 deed that the group of persons sponsoring the bill apparently fol- 

 lowed a great man}' of our recommendations, or at least our recom- 

 mendations and yours coincide. 



In going through the proposed legislation rather carefully, however, 

 there are a few modest recommendations which I would like to bring 

 up and if I may take just a few moments I would like to comment no 

 certain individual sections. 



Before doing this I Avould like to say that I believe myself that 

 something like S. 2692 is essential. On the whole I personally consider 

 it an excellent bill and I believe the vast majority of my colleagues 

 believe this, also. 



In your discussion of education 



The Chairman. I think for the record, as long as you are summing 

 up here, it might be well to take the recommendations as they are. 

 For instance, No. 1 : "The U.S. Government should expand its sup- 

 port of the marine sciences at a rate which will result in at least a 

 doubling of the basic research activity in the United States during 

 the next 10 vears." We would like your comments as they relate to 

 the bill. 



For instance, the question that would come to me immediately; 

 Would the bill do this? 



Mr. Brown. I would be very happy to put it in those terms. 



First of all, all of our recommendations hinge upon this very first 

 one which is that the U.S. Government should expand its support 

 of the marine sciences at a rate which will result in at least a doubling 

 of basic research activity during the next 10 years. We have said 

 that we should be able to achieve a doubling and then we have asked 

 ourselves what has to go with that in terms of manpower, in terms of 

 ships, and in terms of all of the corollary activities. 



Second, we recommended that the increase in support of basic re- 

 search should be accompanied during the next 10 j^ears by a new 

 program of oceanwide surveys. This will require a twofold expansion 

 of the present surveying effort. 



Now if I may just stop at this point and comment on those aspects 

 of the bill which have bearing upon those first two recommendations. 



One of the keys involved in increasing basic research activity is 

 that of increasing manpower. Increasing trained manpower. Indeed 

 the manpower situation is the primary rate limiting factor, whether 

 it be for basic research or for oceanwide survevs. 



