»b MARINE SCIENCE 



I know that in the legislation, the operating areas in which fisheries 

 studies may be undertaken are rather clearly specified in t«rms of 

 latitude and so forth : We believe that this is a mistake, that really 

 we should be empowered to undertake fishery studies any place in 

 the world. I thought about this last night and thought how a cor- 

 responding piece of legislation before the Japanese equivalent of Con- 

 gress might read. I doubt very much that they would specify any 

 particular region in which they could undertake fishery studies. 



The Chairman. I probably had in mind there, thinking of certain 

 problems in certain places, I was trying to push them into those places. 



Mr. Brown. I fully agree that studies in the places mentioned by 

 your programs should be undertaken but I believe it should be 

 broadened. 



The Chairman. I agree it should be broad. 



Mr. Brown. Now, perhaps from the point of view of expenditures, 

 the major part of the program involves shipbuilding and the construc- 

 tion and operation of new shore facilities. 



In connection with shipbuilding, I know there is no sum mentioned 

 for funding authorizations for the Maritime Administration for re- 

 search ships. Also, we believe that tlie statementss concerning funds 

 for construction of new shore facilities should be broadened to include 

 the expansion of existing facilities. 



If I interpret the wording of tlie legislation correctly, you could 

 go out and build a new institution, but were the Chesapeake Bay In- 

 stitute at Johns Hopkins University desirous of broadening activities 

 and building new facilities that would not be possible under the legis- 

 lation as it is now written. So I believe that that section could be 

 broadened. 



The Chairman. Do you still agree with the number of ships under 

 a 10-year program as listed on page 12 ? 



Mr. Brown. Yes. That, I believe, gives a pretty clear picture of 

 what, in the opinion of our committee, we need. 



The Chairman. And the breakdown as to the sponsors ? The Navy 

 should have approximately 38; Coast and Geodetic Survey, 10; Bu- 

 reau of Commercial Fisheries, 14 ; Science Foundation, 4 ; and Mari- 

 time Administration, 4 ? 



Mr. Brown. Yes. 



Again concerning funding authorizations, no sum is mentioned 

 for the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, and also in 

 connection with marine resources development, a smaller sum is men- 

 tioned in the bill than we believe is required for marine resources 

 development. 



In conclusion, however, I would like to stress again that in the 

 opinion of our committee this bill, as it is written, is a very fine one. 

 We suggest the modifications but after much deliberation those are 

 all of the modifications that we have to suggest at the present time. 



The Chairman. And then you have the scheduling of new ships 

 which, of course, would have to be subject to flexibility. You may 

 not get them all in the same year, 



Mr. Brown. I should perhaps mention one aspect of this shipbuild- 

 ing program. We suggested that a certain number of ships are needed 

 and we mapped out a rough proposed schedule. This rough proposed 

 schedule, when you add everything together, puts a peak in the total 

 budget for oceanographic research, as a function of time. 



