108 MARINE SCIENCE 



they might in the face of burgeoning populations and rapidly increasing con- 

 sumption of food, materials, and energy. Our own population and our own 

 needs are increasing. For investment purposes alone the effort and funds needed 

 (as outlined in our report) to further develop our Nation's capability in the 

 marine sciences is a small price to pay to see to it that our children and 

 their children can claim and make effective use of the store of food and ma- 

 terials that are waiting in the seas. And this investment will pay immediate 

 dividends in greater effectiveness for our naval forces, in increased eflBciency 

 of our merchant marine, in international good will, and in new scientific 

 understanding. 



The Chairman. We will leave the record open for any additions 

 and changes. There are a lot of people I know in your group who 

 would have liked to have been here and testified but who could not 

 and they might want to add something. 



In about 3 weeks we will have the record, and it will be available to 

 you and others who are interested. I think it is going to be a very 

 valuable compilation of this whole field of research to everyone, par- 

 ticularly to lay persons. 



After we get the record printed the committee will probably meet 

 and discuss amendments to the bill, or suggestions, and see if it can- 

 not be passed out on the floor and get it moving. Time is running 

 out on us a bit. The session is moving toward a close, if we are to quit 

 to go about our other business in July. 



However, I wouldn't be discouraged, if this shouldn't happen to 

 pass in this session of Congress. The wheels up here grind slowly. 

 The 5 or 6 months until we come back again isn't going to make a 

 great difference if we get the program through then. 



We are laying a lot of foundation for this program, and have a 

 lot of things behind us. 



Are there any questions ? 



Senator Engle. I have no questions. 



I would like to compliment Dr. Brown and his committee on the 

 very excellent work they have done and the contribution you have 

 made to the public interest in the long sessions you have had. I at- 

 tended one of those, and I know you worked diligently and hard on 

 these problems. This report is a carefully considered one, and one in 

 which you have given a great deal of time and attention to details 

 and to practical and minimum things that should be done to help in 

 this field. 



It does constitute the minimum we ought to do, and I hope we can 

 proceed to get on with it. The country owes you and your associates 

 a great debt of gratitude. 



Mr. Brown. Thank you. 



The Chairman. The Senator from Texas. 



Senator Yarborough. I take it, Dr. Brown, you think these recom- 

 mendations make up the minimum program that should be undertaken 

 rather than the maximum to be scaled down ? 



Mr. Brown. Eight. 



Senator Yarborough. I agree with you that I think we should start 

 with this as a minimum program and not, as it is rumored, that some 

 bills are introduced with a large figure with the idea that they will 

 be scaled down. 



I think this is a minimum figure and shouldn't be scaled down any. 



Mr. Brown. We tried to be as realistic as we could. 



