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deep ocean floor, it seems to me premature to decide on the mechanics 
of enforcement. 
I hope these preliminary views may be of some assistance to the 
committee. Of course, as I pointed out, in the very limited time avail- 
able to work with Senate Resolution 186, it has not been possible to 
consider theroughly or obtain coordinated views in the Department on 
these and many other issues which occurred to me after reading the 
resolution. 
Nevertheless, it would be less than candid for me not to advise this 
committee that it seems obvious, even based on this preliminary study, 
that the Department of Defense could not support all aspects of Senate 
Resolution 186. 
I would be very happy, sir, to respond to any questions that you or 
Senator Pell might have, or to refer them to my more informed 
colleagues. 
Senator SparKMAN. Senator Pell. 
PREVENTING DEVELOPMENT OF WEAPONRY IN THE SEA 
Senator Pert. Thank you very much, Mr. Warnke. I want to be 
sure that we both understand what section IV does, because section IV 
in no way would prevent the implacement on the ocean floor of any 
kind of monitoring devices or anything of that sort. 
What it seeks to do, perfectly frankly, is to prevent the creating 
and the propagation of a new generation of weaponry in which we 
may well be ahead. We obviously can’t get into classified subjects in 
this hearing, but in which we may well be ahead of the Soviet Union, 
China, or any other potential opponent. 
But life beme what it is, they will probably catch up to us, and if 
we could preclude this area, from the viewpoint not of protective 
devices but weapons of mass destruction as is indicated here, I wonder 
if you could say in this open hearing whether you think this might be 
against our national interest ? 
Mr. Warnke. I think, Senator Pell, as you recognize, it is very dif_i- 
cult to deal with these questions in an open session. However, I think 
that there are certain things that we might point out. 
One of them is the somewhat imprecise content of the term “peace- 
ful purposes,” and the fact that this might be something which would 
be subject to different imterpretations by different signatories to any 
sort of a treaty. Another thing f would like to point out is that there 
are provisions for visitation, which could provide us with very severe 
security problems. 
Senator Prerx. The word “peaceful” could perhaps be changed 
around to “defensive” or some other word. I don’t think this is an 
insuperable problem. 
RELATION OF OCEAN BASE TO THE ARMS RACE 
What does concern me is that 10 years from now we will have, and 
it will be a matter of public knowledge, in fact some of this has been 
in the press already, a whole new generation of weapons planted in 
the deeps of the sea or the mounds and the ridges in the sea. How can 
we prevent this development, even if we are a little ahead now? Or 
