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would you consider that it would be a desirable objective, because we 
are a little ahead now, to keep moving further ahead ? 
Mr. Warnke. I think there is no question of the dedication of the 
United States to the concept of restraining an arms race, and of enter- 
ing into a meaningful dialog with the cther great world powers, in 
order to restrain that. 
What we are concerned about is the mability at the present time to 
determine just what part the ocean base and its seabeds may play in 
this overall picture, and we regard it, therefore, as premature to try 
and foreclose these uses in just this isolated segment of the world 
territory. 
Now, another thing I would like to say—I forget what coach it was, 
but he maintained with some vigor that the best defense was a good 
offense, and as a result you would always have the question as to what 
the definition might be, and you could not be sure at the present time 
that we would be employing common definitions. 
Senator Pri. This, of course, we all comprehend, the basis of our 
present strategy of nuclear, of massive—the balance of terror or what- 
ever we want to call it, but with regard to your points here, the word 
“neaceful,” as you say, can cause problems. Maybe some other word 
might be used. 
QUESTION OF INSPECTION 
In arms control negotiations our principal criticism of the Soviet 
Union is on the question of inspection, which they would not permit. 
Mr. Warnke. Senator Pell, I would like to point out that the entir 
question of inspection, of course, depends upon a couple of considera- 
tions. One of them is the breadth of the treaty involved, and the second 
one is the feasibility of policing. These are the kinds of questions that 
we fee] require further exploration, before we could determine whether 
a provision such as section TV would be in our national interest. 
PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS IN OCEAN EXPANSE 
Senator Prin. You also indicate some concern that we would have 
these limitations on, as you put it, a particular portion of the earth’s 
surface, but it is 70 percent of the earth’s surface, so it is a pretty large 
particular portion that we are talking about. 
Mr. Warnke. That is correct, sir, but it would not prevent the gen- 
eration of a new species of weapons. 
Senator Pri. Unless we took action quickly. 
Mr. Warn. Well, my point is that unless 100 percent of the world’s 
surface is covered, we aren’t really putting an end to the proliferation 
and the increasing sophistication of weapons of destruction. 
Senator Pent. My proposal would cover what I call ocean space, 
which has a legal definition, as you know. 
Mr. Warnke. Yes, sir. 
Senator Prix. It is the ocean from the base up out to the limit of the 
territorial sea, the continental shelf, and then it includes evervthing 
from there on. It is a pretty well defined area, if we accept that defini- 
tion. It isa pretty large area, too. 
Mr. Warnxz. It is a large area, but as I have said, Senator, we 
don’t feel that we know enough as yet about what our own security 
