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This is a difficult, complex task. We have, however, begun. 



Mr. Lennon. Dr. Wenk, I commented earlier that in my judgment it 

 was a very wise decision made by the two legislative committees of 

 the House and Senate, which was finally collaborated in by the execu- 

 tive branch of the Government, to establish the National Council 

 and I have commented earlier that I thought it had done an excellent 

 job and was proceeding precisely in the manner and in the Avay that 

 the legislative intent of the Congress indicated. 



I think most of the members and I am sure all of them agree with 

 me that your statement here this morning corroborates and substanti- 

 ates my earlier statement with respect to that. I noticed, Dr. Wenk, 

 that you indicated here that the President had appointed five Cabinet 

 members, I believe, to the Council. 



It is on page 4 : 



In accordance with the legislation, the Council is composed of five Cabinet 

 officers * * *. 



Dr. Wenk. These, Mr. Chairman, are provided for by the legisla- 

 tion; I was endeavoring to elaborate on the eight that you had 

 referred to in your opening statement. 



Mr. Lennon". In reading subsection (a) of section 3 of the Public 

 Law 89-454, we note that this Council shall be composed of: 



(1) The Vice President, who shall be Chairman of the Council, (2) The Sec- 

 retary of State, (3) The Secretary of the Navy, (4) The Secretary of the In- 

 terior, (5) The Secretary of Commerce, (6) The Chairman of the Atomic Energy 

 Commission, (7) The Director of the National Science Foundation, (8) The Sec- 

 retary of Health, Education, and Welfare, (9) The Secretary of the Treasury. 



Six Cabinet officers that are named in the bill and I wonder if that 

 was a typographical error in your statement when you said there were 

 five Cabinet officers. Apparently the legislation provided for what 

 is accepted as six Cabinet officers named in the legislation. 



Would you comment on that ? 



Dr. Wenk. Mr. Chairman, the Secretary of State, the Secretary 

 of the Interior, the Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of HEW — and 

 now as a consequence of the transfer of the Coast Guard to the De- 

 partment of Transportation, the Secretary of Transportation, rather 

 than the Secretary of Treasury — are five Cabinet officers referred to 

 in my own presentation. I regarded the Secretary of Navy, the Chair- 

 man of the Atomic Energy Commission, and the Director of the Na- 

 tional Science Foundation as the three department and agency heads. 



Mr. Lennon. For the record. Doctor, subsection (b) of section 3 

 provides that : 



The President may name to the Council such other officers and officials as he 

 deems advisable. 



Skipping down to subsection (d) : 



Each member of the Council, except those designated pursuant to subsection 

 (b), may designate any officer of his department or agency appointed with the 

 advice and consent of the Senate to serve on the Council as his alternate in his 

 unavoidable absence. 



Now if we return to subsection (b) of section 3, would you furnish 

 for the record the names and the positions of any other persons that 

 the President has appointed to the Council since the law gives him 

 that discretion? 



