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The end result is the problem that we are going to have to examine. 

 I would like to give you gentlemen assurance that this is very much 

 on our current agenda. One of the five new committees appointed 

 under our Council is concerned with the multiple uses of the seashore. 

 Following a "lead agency" concept that we enunciated earlier, we have 

 asked the Department of the Interior to chair this committee and have 

 given them some immediate assignments to come in this fall with 

 recommendations possibly for legislative activities in this area. 



Mr. Keith. I am grateful to you for pursuing that possibility and 

 getting further details on the problem. I realize that we don't have 

 too much time and there are others who want to question. 



I would like to get to fish protein concentrate. I will just ask one 

 final question on this subject. 



Have you given a directive or provided a contract for the pursuit 

 of the knowledge that we were just discussing ? 



Dr. Wenk. Yes, Mr. Keith, one of our contracts in this particular 

 area is with Professor Garretson at New York University. There are 

 five such contracts, three contracts dealing with international legal 

 problems, two dealing with legal problems as between the Federal 

 Government and the State governments. This set of problems that 

 you have identified is encompassed within that second group. 



Mr. Keith. I think the race is on. There has been so much talk about 

 the richness of the sea and, for the commercial interests, imports being 

 as they are in the fishing industry, it is not very profitable, conser- 

 vation is getting to be a problem and, therefore, they don't have the 

 public support which the oil industry does, and I would hope that, 

 before they stake a claim so that it is going to be very difficult to dis- 

 place them, that we would set aside some areas. 



We can always undo what the Con^Tess does. If we pass a law set- 

 ting up a zone, we can undo it, but if somebody gets in there with their 

 oil rigs, it is a very difficult thing to get them out. 



Dr. Wenk. I would like to underscore again the fact that we share 

 your concern about the problem. The Torrey Canyon pollution incident 

 dramatized some of the consequences of oil pollution to the beaches of 

 England and France and possibly also to the hazards to some of their 

 shellfish. 



That tanker was jumboized to enlarge its size. 



Mr. Keith. Yesterday this committee took that up in executive 

 session and agreed to publish 2,000 copies of a report that I rendered 

 on that subject. 



Dr. Wenk. Thank you. 



Mr. KoGERS of Florida. Mr. Hanna ? 



Mr. Hanna. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I certainly want to join the very enthusiastic reception that has been 

 accorded your remarks, Dr. Wenk, and I want to make two points, one 

 general and one specific. Both of them have been alluded to, I think, 

 by the previous questioners. 



The first general observation I would like to make about your com- 

 ments is that I think that in "oceanography" you have a characteristic 

 situation in which we invent a catch phrase to cover chaos. The mental- 

 ity of the present is that, if you invent a collective noun, you have some- 

 how made a contribution to knowledge. We want to be sure that in our 

 use of "oceanography" which changes the approach on an important 

 area we have noun and subject matter. 



