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floor that weighs 15,000 pounds, at a depth of 5,200 feet. His mission 

 is to bring the object to the surface within 3 days. 



Could he accomplish this mission? If not within 3 days, how long 

 would it take him? And is there any other country that would be 

 capable of accomplishing this mission within 3 days? And, if not, 

 how long would it take them? 



This is the kind of problem we were faced with and we learned 

 a lot. I notice a little smile in the audience, but we have learned more 

 by reason of operations similar to that which I have described here 

 and which could not be successfully concluded in the time frame that 

 I referred to. So I would appreciate it if you could give us an answer 

 on it. 



Admiral Waters. I would say quite definitely "No," that we could 

 not do it and as far as we know I do not think anybody else could 

 do it. 



The thing that makes this problem outside of the realm of present 

 technology is the weight of the object. Did you say 15,000 pounds? 



Mr. Keith. Yes, I did; at a depth of 5,200 feet. 



Admiral Waters, If it were small like the bomb was, that sort of 

 thing, we could handle it, but anything 15,000 pounds and the stat^ 

 of present technology, we could not. We have an ongoing project on 

 this particular idea to obtain this capability in the Deep Submergency 

 Systems project; that is, getting the heavy weight off the bottom, 

 though not at the depth you noted. But it is the one with the least 

 priority and in these days of scarce money, it will probably go much 

 more slowly than the rest of them. 



Mr. Keith. I have to return to my committee, but I appreciate your 

 answer and I do thinly it is a capability which will soon be within 

 the realm of possibility. 



Admiral Waters. The recovery of small objects is something that 

 does worry us very much and particularly their location. We keep 

 having these problems that confront us, ones that make the news- 

 papers ^ and ones that do not. We have developed some interim 

 capability. 



We are attempting right now to increase that capability in the 

 deep submergence program. 



Mr. Lenjston. The gentleman from California, Mr. Hanna. 



Mr. Hanna. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I want to particularly pay my respects to the admiral for bringing 

 to our attention the cooperation and coordination that is gradually 

 being worked out through the agencies. 



Mr. Chairman, I could only wish that kind of coordination and 

 cooperation existed here on the Hill. I will make reference to the 

 specifics on that later. 



It would seem to me if you want to make multilateral use of the 

 technology developed in singular missions and protect against the 

 multilateral effects because of the ecological relationships m the sea, 

 you have to have this approach you are talking about, whether a lead 

 agency or some other concept. 



I might make this observation : While I have been in this business 

 there is usually a great distinction between the approaches made by 

 a politician and the approaches made by business on a new idea. The 

 politician looks to the pattern shop and finds something that exists 



